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MT @DanWilliams Hearing a major #Israeli national-security development is about to go public - stay tuned for updates from Haaretz

Dunno what this is about..
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Holy jesus fuck... Israel is bombing Iran right now???
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5.25 Richter in Crimea


still not confirmed, but detected, hmmm ???


[link to www.emsc.eu]
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coordinates with google maps


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Interesting indeed.
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MT @DanWilliams Hearing a major #Israeli national-security development is about to go public - stay tuned for updates from Haaretz

Dunno what this is about..
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Holy jesus fuck... Israel is bombing Iran right now???
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That was my first thought..

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On the BBC live feed they have started calling Russian soldiers "pro-Russian gunmen" are they buying the story that they're not really Russian troops?
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Apparently they are. The bbc are fucking retarded.
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I have no doubt there are large numbers of volunteers.

It is easy to jump to wrong conclusion about a place where you have never been so unless you've been to Crimea (as I have) and know the character of the people and their attitudes about Ukraine and Russia and all then really you have no basis to judge.

Maybe some of the troops are Russian but that does not mean all of them are.

Otherwise I might as well boldly claim that all the Maidan radicals were CIA agents. That would be equally stupid, even if they looked quite CIA trained.
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Russians seize Ukrainian missile defense units in Crimea: Interfax

reuters.com/article/2014/03/05/us-ukraine-crisis-missiles-idU​SBREA240KG20140305
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On the BBC live feed they have started calling Russian soldiers "pro-Russian gunmen" are they buying the story that they're not really Russian troops?
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Apparently they are. The bbc are fucking retarded.
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These are not Russian Forces! These are aliens!
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Donetsk today. Google translation
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Sam rally in any case take place in 16-00. DONBASU People's Militia (Paul Gubarev) Today, March 5 at 16:00 in front of the Donetsk Regional State Administration will be the second large rally people Donbass called "Not one step back!" I will give a speech on the main objectives of People's Power and the People's Militia to date (P. Gubarev). Donbass Fate is in your hands! It is common for South-East and Novorossia rally! [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] - zinc (Donetsk requires maximum disseminating this information to break the information blockade - so wide spread that statement) PS. Actually, one of the oligarchs who plan was voiced yesterday, now trying to put life, exchanging the inhabitants of south-east to the possibility of salvation assets ghouls or type Akhmetov Kolomoisky. Therefore, those who understand this and do not want to be a consumable item for the oligarchs, must take to the streets to demand the dismissal of officials subordinate to Kiev and termination of oligarchic rule. All power to the people's governor Paul Gubarev! Down with the junta and the oligarchs! PS2. And yes - do not forget to withdraw all the money from the "Private Bank" and its subsidiaries, as well as campaigning friends and acquaintances to do the same, the bank must topple.
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Psy-Op: LAVROV SAYS RUSSIA CANNOT ORDER "SELF-DEFENCE" FORCES IN CRIMEA BACK TO BASES BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT RUSSIAN FORCES
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


So they've been stealing Russian military vehicles and driving them around Crimea have they? Not sure how he expects anyone to believe him at this point.

And he'd soon claim they were Russians if the Ukrainian army shoot any of them...
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What if the self-defense forces asked to use those vehicles and Russia said yes? Since the vehicles are in Crimea legally I don't see a problem.

Obviously previously some Russian troops were outside base but Russia signalled IIRC they would return them to base but he is now saying some of these forces we don't control. It is to be seen if the ones remaining out of base are real Russian troops or local residents before we accuse him of lying.
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I have seen Eastern European "militia" in the Balkans back in the day and they do not look anything like those guys walking the streets in Crimea. They are usually ex-forces, middle aged and poorly equipped, usually dressed in a hodge podge of different uniform types. They always wear insignia, usually a flag of some kind of unit patch, ala arkan's tigers.
The troops we are seeing are well equipped and uniform, also well trained. Anyone with any military experience can tell they are professional troops just by looking at them. And militia dont have a Navy or attack helicopters let along self propelled artillery. Self defence force my arse.
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Here's another one just in

Russia seizes two Ukrainian missile defence battalions

Read more at: [link to www.firstpost.com]

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Israeli forces in the Golan Heights fired artillery shells early Wednesday at two militants who were attempting to plant an explosive device along the Israeli-Syrian frontier, according to the Israeli military, in the latest sign of how spillover from the Syrian civil war threatens to destabilize a long-quiet cease-fire line.

Israeli military officials identified the militants as “Hezbollah-affiliated terrorists,” referring to the Shiite organization that fought a monthlong war with Israel in Lebanon in 2006. Hezbollah is now fighting in Syria to shore up the government of President Bashar al-Assad in its bloody battle against rebel forces.

The militants were hit by the shelling, according to the Israeli military, but there was no immediate information about their condition.

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Neo-Nazi Takeover? Ultra-nationalists take center stage amid political chaos in #Ukraine @MFinoshina_RT
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The veteran was dead on in his assessment. The hungry beast wants to chip away at Russia by dividing her from her friends and neighbors. They will radicalize the Muslims and make them Salafists and radicalize the nationalists and make them fascists and all of this mischief and destabilization is funded by my tax dollars. Great. Thanks Obumba.

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But what about the dreaded s300.

You all forgot. It's made in Russia. Like the lada was.


watch

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I read 4 rockets were fired from Israel to Syria
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Psy-Op: LAVROV SAYS RUSSIA CANNOT ORDER "SELF-DEFENCE" FORCES IN CRIMEA BACK TO BASES BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT RUSSIAN FORCES
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


So they've been stealing Russian military vehicles and driving them around Crimea have they? Not sure how he expects anyone to believe him at this point.

And he'd soon claim they were Russians if the Ukrainian army shoot any of them...
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What if the self-defense forces asked to use those vehicles and Russia said yes? Since the vehicles are in Crimea legally I don't see a problem.

Obviously previously some Russian troops were outside base but Russia signalled IIRC they would return them to base but he is now saying some of these forces we don't control. It is to be seen if the ones remaining out of base are real Russian troops or local residents before we accuse him of lying.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


I have seen Eastern European "militia" in the Balkans back in the day and they do not look anything like those guys walking the streets in Crimea. They are usually ex-forces, middle aged and poorly equipped, usually dressed in a hodge podge of different uniform types. They always wear insignia, usually a flag of some kind of unit patch, ala arkan's tigers.
The troops we are seeing are well equipped and uniform, also well trained. Anyone with any military experience can tell they are professional troops just by looking at them. And militia dont have a Navy or attack helicopters let along self propelled artillery. Self defence force my arse.
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There are different groups operating in the area and some activity is allowed to the Russian forces outside their bases, though I am not 100% sure what the limits are and have not found an unbiased article on it. If you look at the pictures many of the forces are quite rag-tag. Others are more profesional and they could be either Russian military or Ukrainian military or Crimean military (remember quite a lot defected already).

I think you need to look at each case and decide, there is no formula for everyone out there. And remember we are not talking about some things we saw a few days ago, we are talking about today. So if you have a picture of professional Russian military on the Crimean streets today, please share it.
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are isreal going to invade syria maybe as a way of the us to say f you putin
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But what about the dreaded s300.

You all forgot. It's made in Russia. Like the lada was.


watch


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My grandad was in Berlin not long after WW2 and he said you could always tell Russian made equipment because it was built to last, triple welded and functional. An Ivan told him that a lont of the tanks in Berlin had been at the battle of Kursk and were still running well even if they looked a bit threadbare and battered.
Don't under estimate Ruskie gear, that shit is built to last.
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Haaretz.com @haaretzcom
MT @DanWilliams Hearing a major #Israeli national-security development is about to go public - stay tuned for updates from Haaretz

Dunno what this is about..
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Holy jesus fuck... Israel is bombing Iran right now???
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That was my first thought..

I'm not getting any work done today.. it's official
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@DanWilliams @haaretzcom @Reuters Ship with weapons from Iran to Gazza seized
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Haaretz.com @haaretzcom
MT @DanWilliams Hearing a major #Israeli national-security development is about to go public - stay tuned for updates from Haaretz

Dunno what this is about..
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Holy jesus fuck... Israel is bombing Iran right now???
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That was my first thought..

I'm not getting any work done today.. it's official
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


Ditto. I have coffee ready. It's going to be a hellish day.
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@DanWilliams @haaretzcom @Reuters Ship with weapons from Iran to Gazza seized
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Looks like Israel is about to jump into this clusterfuck. Big surprise.
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so whens this isreali announcement
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So they've been stealing Russian military vehicles and driving them around Crimea have they? Not sure how he expects anyone to believe him at this point.

And he'd soon claim they were Russians if the Ukrainian army shoot any of them...
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


What if the self-defense forces asked to use those vehicles and Russia said yes? Since the vehicles are in Crimea legally I don't see a problem.

Obviously previously some Russian troops were outside base but Russia signalled IIRC they would return them to base but he is now saying some of these forces we don't control. It is to be seen if the ones remaining out of base are real Russian troops or local residents before we accuse him of lying.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


I have seen Eastern European "militia" in the Balkans back in the day and they do not look anything like those guys walking the streets in Crimea. They are usually ex-forces, middle aged and poorly equipped, usually dressed in a hodge podge of different uniform types. They always wear insignia, usually a flag of some kind of unit patch, ala arkan's tigers.
The troops we are seeing are well equipped and uniform, also well trained. Anyone with any military experience can tell they are professional troops just by looking at them. And militia dont have a Navy or attack helicopters let along self propelled artillery. Self defence force my arse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12990456


There are different groups operating in the area and some activity is allowed to the Russian forces outside their bases, though I am not 100% sure what the limits are and have not found an unbiased article on it. If you look at the pictures many of the forces are quite rag-tag. Others are more profesional and they could be either Russian military or Ukrainian military or Crimean military (remember quite a lot defected already).

I think you need to look at each case and decide, there is no formula for everyone out there. And remember we are not talking about some things we saw a few days ago, we are talking about today. So if you have a picture of professional Russian military on the Crimean streets today, please share it.
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arkan was a git and the world is a better place with him dead. However if you had ever gone toe to toe with them you would know they were well uniformed and trained, they had one great weakness they could not overcome - they were Serbian.

Any how stop making stuff up there's a good chap the only eastern European 'militia' you've seen is on youtube..

These are Russian troops.
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So they've been stealing Russian military vehicles and driving them around Crimea have they? Not sure how he expects anyone to believe him at this point.

And he'd soon claim they were Russians if the Ukrainian army shoot any of them...
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


What if the self-defense forces asked to use those vehicles and Russia said yes? Since the vehicles are in Crimea legally I don't see a problem.

Obviously previously some Russian troops were outside base but Russia signalled IIRC they would return them to base but he is now saying some of these forces we don't control. It is to be seen if the ones remaining out of base are real Russian troops or local residents before we accuse him of lying.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


I have seen Eastern European "militia" in the Balkans back in the day and they do not look anything like those guys walking the streets in Crimea. They are usually ex-forces, middle aged and poorly equipped, usually dressed in a hodge podge of different uniform types. They always wear insignia, usually a flag of some kind of unit patch, ala arkan's tigers.
The troops we are seeing are well equipped and uniform, also well trained. Anyone with any military experience can tell they are professional troops just by looking at them. And militia dont have a Navy or attack helicopters let along self propelled artillery. Self defence force my arse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12990456


There are different groups operating in the area and some activity is allowed to the Russian forces outside their bases, though I am not 100% sure what the limits are and have not found an unbiased article on it. If you look at the pictures many of the forces are quite rag-tag. Others are more profesional and they could be either Russian military or Ukrainian military or Crimean military (remember quite a lot defected already).

I think you need to look at each case and decide, there is no formula for everyone out there. And remember we are not talking about some things we saw a few days ago, we are talking about today. So if you have a picture of professional Russian military on the Crimean streets today, please share it.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


arkan was a git and the world is a better place with him dead. However if you had ever gone toe to toe with them you would know they were well uniformed and trained, they had one great weakness they could not overcome - they were Serbian.

Any how stop making stuff up there's a good chap the only eastern European 'militia' you've seen is on youtube..

These are Russian troops.
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its either iran related or syria related
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Haaretz.com @haaretzcom
MT @DanWilliams Hearing a major #Israeli national-security development is about to go public - stay tuned for updates from Haaretz

Dunno what this is about..
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


Holy jesus fuck... Israel is bombing Iran right now???
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That was my first thought..

I'm not getting any work done today.. it's official
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@DanWilliams @haaretzcom @Reuters Ship with weapons from Iran to Gazza seized
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This is a major israeli national security development? Bullshit... it has happened countless times in the past... So unless they plan to bomb Iran in retaliation... this is no big deal... but since they are making it a big deal, that means they plan on bombing shit up...

Uh oh.
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What if the self-defense forces asked to use those vehicles and Russia said yes? Since the vehicles are in Crimea legally I don't see a problem.

Obviously previously some Russian troops were outside base but Russia signalled IIRC they would return them to base but he is now saying some of these forces we don't control. It is to be seen if the ones remaining out of base are real Russian troops or local residents before we accuse him of lying.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


I have seen Eastern European "militia" in the Balkans back in the day and they do not look anything like those guys walking the streets in Crimea. They are usually ex-forces, middle aged and poorly equipped, usually dressed in a hodge podge of different uniform types. They always wear insignia, usually a flag of some kind of unit patch, ala arkan's tigers.
The troops we are seeing are well equipped and uniform, also well trained. Anyone with any military experience can tell they are professional troops just by looking at them. And militia dont have a Navy or attack helicopters let along self propelled artillery. Self defence force my arse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12990456


There are different groups operating in the area and some activity is allowed to the Russian forces outside their bases, though I am not 100% sure what the limits are and have not found an unbiased article on it. If you look at the pictures many of the forces are quite rag-tag. Others are more profesional and they could be either Russian military or Ukrainian military or Crimean military (remember quite a lot defected already).

I think you need to look at each case and decide, there is no formula for everyone out there. And remember we are not talking about some things we saw a few days ago, we are talking about today. So if you have a picture of professional Russian military on the Crimean streets today, please share it.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


arkan was a git and the world is a better place with him dead. However if you had ever gone toe to toe with them you would know they were well uniformed and trained, they had one great weakness they could not overcome - they were Serbian.

Any how stop making stuff up there's a good chap the only eastern European 'militia' you've seen is on youtube..

These are Russian troops.
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And again we have you "the Irishman",insulting Serbians.
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If the missile shield update is for real... then this is a big fucking escalation.





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