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liar2
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Notes from Crimea: Remember that Crimeans have been suffering since beginning of March. No tourists, no stability. Now ruble crash & winter
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Now would be the perfect time to throw off the Russian occupiers.
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As someone posted a couple days ago if Putin has a ace up his sleeve, and I said you can bet on it, someone else picked up one this


‘Putin keeps ace up his sleeve to surprise market’

President Putin has not disclosed his future strategic plans during the annual Q&A since to surprise international markets one should always have an ace up the sleeve, French economist Jacque Sapir told RT.

Sapir said he is quite optimistic as it “is pretty obvious in the short run that Russia has all the means available to deliver a very strong shock on the foreign exchange market.”

“It actually did so on Wednesday,” he said. Now the question is how long it will take before Russia can stabilize the situation with its economy in the long-term. In that respect, “President Vladimir Putin has not given any positive information,” on the matter, the expert added “because it is very important to keep some ace in your sleeve if you want to surprise the market.”
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 Quoting: Bes Maat


But everyone is looking now only at Russia, Putin and Ukraine, maybe a bit at China and ME. I know some people from different countries living here. They tell me what happens there. They try to avoid IMF and the western blackmailers like hell. Because they are small countries nobody recognizes what happens - that they get help from China and Russia to develop. For example Russia has helped Bangladesh to get their own satellite into orbit. The satellite has the name of their assasinated former president. (Rumors that Obamas Grandma was involved in that plot in the 70th)

They are losing ground everywhere. We are watching a big dino dying and how he's fighting against it.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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He is one of a few. But whats that all obout the trianle up sighn he is doing once in a while?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66182585


Merkel once was asked why she makes this sign, and she said she simply does this to keep her hands neat...every Politician has his own way of keeping their hands in a position so not to give off any weird signal or looking awkward. I personally don't put too much weight into something like that. There are more obvious gestures you can do with hands/fingers and those would be leaving no doubt or speculation chuckle

Edit to add: The last couple days this was discussed and on our social media because our President made the same hands as Merkel, and then they said Merkel explained it like that. There are alot of jokes about it now why El-Sisi is doing it too now...
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Are you a christian?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66182585


I have answered this religion question many times and I repeat - I do not answer questions about my religion because it invites all kinds of discussions and crazy fanatics that I think are a waste of energy and time. Religion is to me something personal - my relationship I have with God is private, just like I don't discuss my private relationships on this site either. I am more of a spiritual than a ritual person, that should satisfy your question.

Edit to add: I am here to discuss geopolitics mostly and I don't like when people throw religion in form of passages of bible or other religious prophecies...I believe this is part of the divide&conquer game, so that's why I'm blocking this question completely. Because of the Region I am from, I wouldn't be able to discuss anything without someone tossing something religious at me when it has nothing to do with the issue or how I feel. Those that know my posting probably understand what I mean.
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great answer!

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@L0gg0l: #BREAKING OBAMA SANCTIONS RUSSIAN BIKER GANG "NIGHT WOLVES" #russia #ukraine #SteavenSeagal
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Whats next? The St Petersburg cooking class for beginners club?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53762169


Error of the printing press? Instead of Dollars they printed millions of sanctions which they distribute now all over the world.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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In the wake of Crimea's independence referendum, Hillary Clinton says Russian President Putin is a "new Hitler." Zbigniew Brezezinski, former National Security Advisor agrees, calling Putin not just another Hitler, but also a thug, a menace, a Mafia gangster, and a Mussolini. The Western mainstream media echoes this childish name-calling.

Why is the whole Western foreign policy establishment so afraid of Putin?

Because Putin is standing up against Western aggression – not only in Ukraine, but also in Syria and Iran. Ongoing Western attempts to destabilize these and other countries are just the most recent examples of a decades-old pattern of aggression. The long-term goal: Total destruction of traditional nations and values, and the creation of a New World Order global dictatorship.

Since the 1953 CIA-MI6 coup in Iran, the West has been using the same formula to overthrow legitimate but uncooperative leaders: First, sabotage the country's economy. Then bribe corrupt military officers and thugs and pay rent-a-mobs to create chaos in the streets. Next (this step is optional) incite violence by paying snipers to fire into crowds – and maybe set off some bombs. Finally, send the corrupt military units and gangsters to overthrow the target nation's legitimate leader, murder or imprison his supporters, install a Western puppet in his place – and announce that "order has been restored."

The CIA did it to Iran's democratically-elected Prime Minister Mossadegh in 1953, to Indonesia's President Sukarno in 1965, and to Chile's Prime Minister Allende on September 11th, 1973. They did the same thing to Ukraine's legitimate president, Viktor Yanukovych, a few weeks ago. Neocon regime-change apparatchik Victoria Nuland (The assistant US secretary of state,) got caught admitting that the US had spent five billion dollars to overthrow Ukraine's democratically-elected government; and EU Foreign Affairs Chief Catherine Ashton was heard on tape discussing the "news" that the Maidan Square snipers were part of the US-sponsored coup.

The people of Ukraine should be worried. US-sponsored coups can turn very bloody very quickly.

The CIA's 1965 Indonesia coup was one of the biggest holocausts in history. According to Princeton history professor Bradley Simpson, as cited by the Jakarta Globe: "The US and British governments did everything in their power to ensure that the Indonesian army would carry out the mass killings" of more than one million people following the coup against Sukarno. Most of the victims were tortured before they were murdered. The list of names of people to be tortured and murdered was provided by the CIA to their hired Indonesian thugs. While this was going on, five-year-old Barrack Obama was living in Indonesia with his stepfather Lolo Soetoro, who was working for the American mass murderers.

That's right: Obama's stepfather was a holocaust perpetrator.

In 1971, following the CIA's coup in Chile, the American stooge Pinochet murdered 3,000 people and tortured 30,000. These actions were fully supported by Pinochet's American sponsors, who trained and paid the thugs and torturers.

The hecatomb in Syria, too, is best understood as yet another US-sponsored coup attempt.

The NWO-driven Americans and their Western allies have killed tens of millions in these coups, interventions, destabilization campaigns, and undeclared wars. According to André Vltchek and Noam Chomsky's book On Western Terrorism, the total number killed is over 50 million since World War II. If we add to this the number of people tortured, brutalized, falsely imprisoned, forced to become refugees, or who had their lives ruined by Western terrorism, the number of victims reaches the hundreds of millions.

Today, the American terrorists and their NATO allies seem less interested in installing puppet governments than in reducing entire nations to chaos. The CIA-NATO coup against Gaddafi has destroyed Libya as a modern nation-state. Western-backed false-flag terror in Iraq is splitting up that country. Syria is being decimated by a Western-backed attempt to overthrow Assad. Venezuela, too, is being destabilized by a CIA-backed coup effort.

In short, the New World Order – a shadowy group of global banking oligarchs bent on establishing a one-world dictatorship – is trying to overthrow every leader on earth who resists. Russian President Putin is resisting. That is why the Western propaganda machine is calling him names.

It is worth noting that Russia and Iran – the two nations most successfully resisting NWO regime change – are doing so in the name of God.

According to Catholic intellectual E. Michael Jones, the 1979 Iranian Revolution was the opening salvo of a global backlash against secularism's destruction of traditional values. Like the 1980 election of Ronald Reagan (driven by Americans' disgust with the so-called sexual revolution) and the rise of Poland's Solidarity movement (which opposed communist atheism), the establishment of the Islamic Republic of Iran was a landmark event signaling an end to the 20th-century wave of militant secularism and atheism – and a revival of traditional religion.

President Putin enjoys overwhelming popularity in Russia due to his defense of traditional religious values. In his State of the Nation address last December, Putin said: "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values… Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan."

Putin's reference to Satanism was a pointed rebuke to the New World Order elites, who – though they push militant secularism on the societies they are trying to undermine – are closet Satanists. Anyone who doubts this should run the name "Lt. Col. Michael Aquino" through a search engine. Aquino, an avowed Satanist and credibly-accused mass child abuser, was rewarded for his crimes against children with an appointment as Chief of Psychological Warfare for the US military. (For background on the satanic international banking elite, and its near-total control of Western institutions, read Nick Bryant's book The Franklin Scandal alongside the work of Canadian scholar Henry Makow.)

The shock troops of the NWO's war against religion and tradition (and Russia and Iran) are the neoconservatives. Operation Gladio terrorist Michael Ledeen explains: "Creative destruction is our middle name, both within our society and abroad. We tear down the old order every day, from business to science, literature, art, architecture, and cinema to politics and the law. Our enemies have always hated this whirlwind of energy and creativity which menaces their traditions (whatever they may be) and shames them for their inability to keep pace ... We must destroy them to advance our historic mission."

Putin is stopping New World Order "creative destruction" in Syria and Ukraine. He is part of a growing coalition opposing the NWO – not just religious traditionalists, but also progressive anti-globalization forces, including Hugo Chavez inspired anti-imperialists in Latin America.

We are facing an epic struggle between those who espouse sacred values such as justice and decency versus those who wish to destroy all values.
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Is this a citation? Then you must name the source.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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In the wake of Crimea's independence referendum, Hillary Clinton says Russian President Putin is a "new Hitler." Zbigniew Brezezinski, former National Security Advisor agrees, calling Putin not just another Hitler, but also a thug, a menace, a Mafia gangster, and a Mussolini. The Western mainstream media echoes this childish name-calling.

Why is the whole Western foreign policy establishment so afraid of Putin?

Because Putin is standing up against Western aggression – not only in Ukraine, but also in Syria and Iran. Ongoing Western attempts to destabilize these and other countries are just the most recent examples of a decades-old pattern of aggression. The long-term goal: Total destruction of traditional nations and values, and the creation of a New World Order global dictatorship.

Since the 1953 CIA-MI6 coup in Iran, the West has been using the same formula to overthrow legitimate but uncooperative leaders: First, sabotage the country's economy. Then bribe corrupt military officers and thugs and pay rent-a-mobs to create chaos in the streets. Next (this step is optional) incite violence by paying snipers to fire into crowds – and maybe set off some bombs. Finally, send the corrupt military units and gangsters to overthrow the target nation's legitimate leader, murder or imprison his supporters, install a Western puppet in his place – and announce that "order has been restored."

The CIA did it to Iran's democratically-elected Prime Minister Mossadegh in 1953, to Indonesia's President Sukarno in 1965, and to Chile's Prime Minister Allende on September 11th, 1973. They did the same thing to Ukraine's legitimate president, Viktor Yanukovych, a few weeks ago. Neocon regime-change apparatchik Victoria Nuland (The assistant US secretary of state,) got caught admitting that the US had spent five billion dollars to overthrow Ukraine's democratically-elected government; and EU Foreign Affairs Chief Catherine Ashton was heard on tape discussing the "news" that the Maidan Square snipers were part of the US-sponsored coup.

The people of Ukraine should be worried. US-sponsored coups can turn very bloody very quickly.

The CIA's 1965 Indonesia coup was one of the biggest holocausts in history. According to Princeton history professor Bradley Simpson, as cited by the Jakarta Globe: "The US and British governments did everything in their power to ensure that the Indonesian army would carry out the mass killings" of more than one million people following the coup against Sukarno. Most of the victims were tortured before they were murdered. The list of names of people to be tortured and murdered was provided by the CIA to their hired Indonesian thugs. While this was going on, five-year-old Barrack Obama was living in Indonesia with his stepfather Lolo Soetoro, who was working for the American mass murderers.

That's right: Obama's stepfather was a holocaust perpetrator.

In 1971, following the CIA's coup in Chile, the American stooge Pinochet murdered 3,000 people and tortured 30,000. These actions were fully supported by Pinochet's American sponsors, who trained and paid the thugs and torturers.

The hecatomb in Syria, too, is best understood as yet another US-sponsored coup attempt.

The NWO-driven Americans and their Western allies have killed tens of millions in these coups, interventions, destabilization campaigns, and undeclared wars. According to André Vltchek and Noam Chomsky's book On Western Terrorism, the total number killed is over 50 million since World War II. If we add to this the number of people tortured, brutalized, falsely imprisoned, forced to become refugees, or who had their lives ruined by Western terrorism, the number of victims reaches the hundreds of millions.

Today, the American terrorists and their NATO allies seem less interested in installing puppet governments than in reducing entire nations to chaos. The CIA-NATO coup against Gaddafi has destroyed Libya as a modern nation-state. Western-backed false-flag terror in Iraq is splitting up that country. Syria is being decimated by a Western-backed attempt to overthrow Assad. Venezuela, too, is being destabilized by a CIA-backed coup effort.

In short, the New World Order – a shadowy group of global banking oligarchs bent on establishing a one-world dictatorship – is trying to overthrow every leader on earth who resists. Russian President Putin is resisting. That is why the Western propaganda machine is calling him names.

It is worth noting that Russia and Iran – the two nations most successfully resisting NWO regime change – are doing so in the name of God.

According to Catholic intellectual E. Michael Jones, the 1979 Iranian Revolution was the opening salvo of a global backlash against secularism's destruction of traditional values. Like the 1980 election of Ronald Reagan (driven by Americans' disgust with the so-called sexual revolution) and the rise of Poland's Solidarity movement (which opposed communist atheism), the establishment of the Islamic Republic of Iran was a landmark event signaling an end to the 20th-century wave of militant secularism and atheism – and a revival of traditional religion.

President Putin enjoys overwhelming popularity in Russia due to his defense of traditional religious values. In his State of the Nation address last December, Putin said: "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values… Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan."

Putin's reference to Satanism was a pointed rebuke to the New World Order elites, who – though they push militant secularism on the societies they are trying to undermine – are closet Satanists. Anyone who doubts this should run the name "Lt. Col. Michael Aquino" through a search engine. Aquino, an avowed Satanist and credibly-accused mass child abuser, was rewarded for his crimes against children with an appointment as Chief of Psychological Warfare for the US military. (For background on the satanic international banking elite, and its near-total control of Western institutions, read Nick Bryant's book The Franklin Scandal alongside the work of Canadian scholar Henry Makow.)

The shock troops of the NWO's war against religion and tradition (and Russia and Iran) are the neoconservatives. Operation Gladio terrorist Michael Ledeen explains: "Creative destruction is our middle name, both within our society and abroad. We tear down the old order every day, from business to science, literature, art, architecture, and cinema to politics and the law. Our enemies have always hated this whirlwind of energy and creativity which menaces their traditions (whatever they may be) and shames them for their inability to keep pace ... We must destroy them to advance our historic mission."

Putin is stopping New World Order "creative destruction" in Syria and Ukraine. He is part of a growing coalition opposing the NWO – not just religious traditionalists, but also progressive anti-globalization forces, including Hugo Chavez inspired anti-imperialists in Latin America.

We are facing an epic struggle between those who espouse sacred values such as justice and decency versus those who wish to destroy all values.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66206214


This little piece has disappeared completely from the talking points, where's the investigation into this?

Btw AC you need to post the link from wherever you copied this from. GLP policy
 Quoting: Bes Maat


You are right I'm sorry but I copy the articles I found interesting in a word-file.

I want add some things. I am agnostic and I don't belive in the christian god. If a god exist, he is trascendent. But is a fact that many christian values are positive, enriching and humanist values. And is a fact Putin is defending those values. And is a fact Putin is opposing the illuminati depopulation and enslaving agenda, fighting the GMO, the homosexual propaganda among children, the finance above the real economy. And those are FACTS, not suppositions. He is not perfect. He is a statist, he is a capitalist. But he is the better the free world actually have.
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He is one of a few. But whats that all obout the trianle up sighn he is doing once in a while?
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Once in a while ... I found out that I'm "doing" this also but it's unconsciously. You should watch A. Merkel she does this all the time that people now are joking about it.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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:liar2:
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God man! admitting that all of them full of shit.......good man...
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EU chief calls for decentralization and federalization of Ukraine

[..] Urging a "global solution," the EU chief said a way for Ukraine to become a "decentralized (or federalized) country" must be found. He called for the country's closer ties with the EU. However, he also said, "Europe has become unpopular among Europeans" in the past five to six years.

Kiev should "establish a correct relationship with Russia, its neighbor, with which it shares history, culture and language," Van Rompuy said, adding that the interests of minorities in Ukraine should be respected. <50% [link to rt.com]
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Merkel once was asked why she makes this sign, and she said she simply does this to keep her hands neat...every Politician has his own way of keeping their hands in a position so not to give off any weird signal or looking awkward. I personally don't put too much weight into something like that. There are more obvious gestures you can do with hands/fingers and those would be leaving no doubt or speculation chuckle

Edit to add: The last couple days this was discussed and on our social media because our President made the same hands as Merkel, and then they said Merkel explained it like that. There are alot of jokes about it now why El-Sisi is doing it too now...
 Quoting: Bes Maat



Are you a christian?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66182585


I have answered this religion question many times and I repeat - I do not answer questions about my religion because it invites all kinds of discussions and crazy fanatics that I think are a waste of energy and time. Religion is to me something personal - my relationship I have with God is private, just like I don't discuss my private relationships on this site either. I am more of a spiritual than a ritual person, that should satisfy your question.

Edit to add: I am here to discuss geopolitics mostly and I don't like when people throw religion in form of passages of bible or other religious prophecies...I believe this is part of the divide&conquer game, so that's why I'm blocking this question completely. Because of the Region I am from, I wouldn't be able to discuss anything without someone tossing something religious at me when it has nothing to do with the issue or how I feel. Those that know my posting probably understand what I mean.
 Quoting: Bes Maat


great answer!

clappa
 Quoting: Matjaz

Up until 20 years ago there was a contained privacy and maturity regarding one's personal eh, "beliefs", separation of church & state it was a given.
Now these basic boundaries are trashed letting loose floodgates on people who can't contain these basic adult traits invading on all sides.
Journalism too had dignity and standards, then in comes "hate radio" and fish lips slick with gloss and low gossip.
Then all you hear is hatehatehatehatehate and it's all downhill from there.
I am still charmed by Bill Moyers, not important to always "agree"..he was the last dignified holder of an honorable trade.

BTW, how russia handles these things have all-important differences. Obvious to anyone paying attention we've got it wrong in his approach to internal issues. And it is their business, sovereign handling of society.
Putin has traits recognized in the hearts of his people and in fact the world over his grace including under fire intelligence and restraint is something we'll never see again in our degraded um, culture.

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Are you a christian?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66182585


I have answered this religion question many times and I repeat - I do not answer questions about my religion because it invites all kinds of discussions and crazy fanatics that I think are a waste of energy and time. Religion is to me something personal - my relationship I have with God is private, just like I don't discuss my private relationships on this site either. I am more of a spiritual than a ritual person, that should satisfy your question.

Edit to add: I am here to discuss geopolitics mostly and I don't like when people throw religion in form of passages of bible or other religious prophecies...I believe this is part of the divide&conquer game, so that's why I'm blocking this question completely. Because of the Region I am from, I wouldn't be able to discuss anything without someone tossing something religious at me when it has nothing to do with the issue or how I feel. Those that know my posting probably understand what I mean.
 Quoting: Bes Maat


great answer!

clappa
 Quoting: Matjaz

Up until 20 years ago there was a contained privacy and maturity regarding one's personal eh, "beliefs", separation of church & state it was a given.
Now these basic boundaries are trashed letting loose floodgates on people who can't contain these basic adult traits invading on all sides.
Journalism too had dignity and standards, then in comes "hate radio" and fish lips slick with gloss and low gossip.
Then all you hear is hatehatehatehatehate and it's all downhill from there.
I am still charmed by Bill Moyers, not important to always "agree"..he was the last dignified holder of an honorable trade.

BTW, how russia handles these things have all-important differences. Obvious to anyone paying attention we've got it wrong in his approach to internal issues. And it is their business, sovereign handling of society.
Putin has traits recognized in the hearts of his people and in fact the world over his grace including under fire intelligence and restraint is something we'll never see again in our degraded um, culture.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


Everything well said, bolded part, I think you're so right.
People still haven't learned to look past the MSM hype during any major event and instead inform themselves. Press Freedom doesn't exist, only the few in charge of this theater have the freedom to form your opinion by spreading their version of events. Be careful guys!
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I have answered this religion question many times and I repeat - I do not answer questions about my religion because it invites all kinds of discussions and crazy fanatics that I think are a waste of energy and time. Religion is to me something personal - my relationship I have with God is private, just like I don't discuss my private relationships on this site either. I am more of a spiritual than a ritual person, that should satisfy your question.

Edit to add: I am here to discuss geopolitics mostly and I don't like when people throw religion in form of passages of bible or other religious prophecies...I believe this is part of the divide&conquer game, so that's why I'm blocking this question completely. Because of the Region I am from, I wouldn't be able to discuss anything without someone tossing something religious at me when it has nothing to do with the issue or how I feel. Those that know my posting probably understand what I mean.
 Quoting: Bes Maat


great answer!

clappa
 Quoting: Matjaz

Up until 20 years ago there was a contained privacy and maturity regarding one's personal eh, "beliefs", separation of church & state it was a given.
Now these basic boundaries are trashed letting loose floodgates on people who can't contain these basic adult traits invading on all sides.
Journalism too had dignity and standards, then in comes "hate radio" and fish lips slick with gloss and low gossip.
Then all you hear is hatehatehatehatehate and it's all downhill from there.
I am still charmed by Bill Moyers, not important to always "agree"..he was the last dignified holder of an honorable trade.

BTW, how russia handles these things have all-important differences. Obvious to anyone paying attention we've got it wrong in his approach to internal issues. And it is their business, sovereign handling of society.
Putin has traits recognized in the hearts of his people and in fact the world over his grace including under fire intelligence and restraint is something we'll never see again in our degraded um, culture.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


Everything well said, bolded part, I think you're so right.
 Quoting: Bes Maat

woohoothumbs
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He is one of a few. But whats that all obout the trianle up sighn he is doing once in a while?
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Merkel once was asked why she makes this sign, and she said she simply does this to keep her hands neat...every Politician has his own way of keeping their hands in a position so not to give off any weird signal or looking awkward. I personally don't put too much weight into something like that. There are more obvious gestures you can do with hands/fingers and those would be leaving no doubt or speculation chuckle

Edit to add: The last couple days this was discussed and on our social media because our President made the same hands as Merkel, and then they said Merkel explained it like that. There are alot of jokes about it now why El-Sisi is doing it too now...
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Are you a christian?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66182585


I have answered this religion question many times and I repeat - I do not answer questions about my religion because it invites all kinds of discussions and crazy fanatics that I think are a waste of energy and time. Religion is to me something personal - my relationship I have with God is private, just like I don't discuss my private relationships on this site either. I am more of a spiritual than a ritual person, that should satisfy your question.

Edit to add: I am here to discuss geopolitics mostly and I don't like when people throw religion in form of passages of bible or other religious prophecies...I believe this is part of the divide&conquer game, so that's why I'm blocking this question completely. Because of the Region I am from, I wouldn't be able to discuss anything without someone tossing something religious at me when it has nothing to do with the issue or how I feel. Those that know my posting probably understand what I mean.
 Quoting: Bes Maat


I, personally, don't care what religion, you, or any other person, is. Religion is not who or what you are inside spiritually. I like what you say, and I like how you say it. A good heart, and a smart mind is all that matters to me. hf
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Notes from Crimea: Remember that Crimeans have been suffering since beginning of March. No tourists, no stability. Now ruble crash & winter
 Quoting: Luisport


Now would be the perfect time to throw off the Russian occupiers.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


I wonder what kind of lies they're telling the Crimeans to make them believe that it's all Ukraine's fault and not Russia's. Because you know they're giving them an intense dose of propaganda doing just that.
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Merkel once was asked why she makes this sign, and she said she simply does this to keep her hands neat...every Politician has his own way of keeping their hands in a position so not to give off any weird signal or looking awkward. I personally don't put too much weight into something like that. There are more obvious gestures you can do with hands/fingers and those would be leaving no doubt or speculation chuckle

Edit to add: The last couple days this was discussed and on our social media because our President made the same hands as Merkel, and then they said Merkel explained it like that. There are alot of jokes about it now why El-Sisi is doing it too now...
 Quoting: Bes Maat



Are you a christian?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66182585


I have answered this religion question many times and I repeat - I do not answer questions about my religion because it invites all kinds of discussions and crazy fanatics that I think are a waste of energy and time. Religion is to me something personal - my relationship I have with God is private, just like I don't discuss my private relationships on this site either. I am more of a spiritual than a ritual person, that should satisfy your question.

Edit to add: I am here to discuss geopolitics mostly and I don't like when people throw religion in form of passages of bible or other religious prophecies...I believe this is part of the divide&conquer game, so that's why I'm blocking this question completely. Because of the Region I am from, I wouldn't be able to discuss anything without someone tossing something religious at me when it has nothing to do with the issue or how I feel. Those that know my posting probably understand what I mean.
 Quoting: Bes Maat


I, personally, don't care what religion, you, or any other person, is. Religion is not who or what you are inside spiritually. I like what you say, and I like how you say it. A good heart, and a smart mind is all that matters to me. hf
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Good to see you oh kindred pal Kat! :)
Queasy greetings from the Titanic..wanna dig a tunnel straight north :/
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Notes from Crimea: Remember that Crimeans have been suffering since beginning of March. No tourists, no stability. Now ruble crash & winter
 Quoting: Luisport


Now would be the perfect time to throw off the Russian occupiers.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


I wonder what kind of lies they're telling the Crimeans to make them believe that it's all Ukraine's fault and not Russia's. Because you know they're giving them an intense dose of propaganda doing just that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5606017


No way! Putin is a Saint! He only kisses little boy stomachs because he cares about children! He only tortures prisoners to make them happier once they are finished with the torture!

Come on you NATO poodle!

Stop the lies!

Putin arrests protesters and sends them to prison only to protect them!

Putin wears golden underwear! Fool!
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Are you a christian?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66182585


I have answered this religion question many times and I repeat - I do not answer questions about my religion because it invites all kinds of discussions and crazy fanatics that I think are a waste of energy and time. Religion is to me something personal - my relationship I have with God is private, just like I don't discuss my private relationships on this site either. I am more of a spiritual than a ritual person, that should satisfy your question.

Edit to add: I am here to discuss geopolitics mostly and I don't like when people throw religion in form of passages of bible or other religious prophecies...I believe this is part of the divide&conquer game, so that's why I'm blocking this question completely. Because of the Region I am from, I wouldn't be able to discuss anything without someone tossing something religious at me when it has nothing to do with the issue or how I feel. Those that know my posting probably understand what I mean.
 Quoting: Bes Maat


I, personally, don't care what religion, you, or any other person, is. Religion is not who or what you are inside spiritually. I like what you say, and I like how you say it. A good heart, and a smart mind is all that matters to me. hf
 Quoting: katballoo

Good to see you oh kindred pal Kat! :)
Queasy greetings from the Titanic..wanna dig a tunnel straight north :/
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Hi Dawasatso! Great to see you too! I've been lurking and learning, without much imput.
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Adin of Crimea @RealCrimea · 11 min Há 11 minutos
Notes from Crimea: Remember that Crimeans have been suffering since beginning of March. No tourists, no stability. Now ruble crash & winter
 Quoting: Luisport


Now would be the perfect time to throw off the Russian occupiers.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


I wonder what kind of lies they're telling the Crimeans to make them believe that it's all Ukraine's fault and not Russia's. Because you know they're giving them an intense dose of propaganda doing just that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5606017


No way! Putin is a Saint! He only kisses little boy stomachs because he cares about children! He only tortures prisoners to make them happier once they are finished with the torture!

Come on you NATO poodle!

Stop the lies!

Putin arrests protesters and sends them to prison only to protect them!

Putin wears golden underwear! Fool!
 Quoting: Hollow-Point Brian

Captain Bringdown hath arrived.

How are your monochromatic darks today?
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I have answered this religion question many times and I repeat - I do not answer questions about my religion because it invites all kinds of discussions and crazy fanatics that I think are a waste of energy and time. Religion is to me something personal - my relationship I have with God is private, just like I don't discuss my private relationships on this site either. I am more of a spiritual than a ritual person, that should satisfy your question.

Edit to add: I am here to discuss geopolitics mostly and I don't like when people throw religion in form of passages of bible or other religious prophecies...I believe this is part of the divide&conquer game, so that's why I'm blocking this question completely. Because of the Region I am from, I wouldn't be able to discuss anything without someone tossing something religious at me when it has nothing to do with the issue or how I feel. Those that know my posting probably understand what I mean.
 Quoting: Bes Maat


I, personally, don't care what religion, you, or any other person, is. Religion is not who or what you are inside spiritually. I like what you say, and I like how you say it. A good heart, and a smart mind is all that matters to me. hf
 Quoting: katballoo

Good to see you oh kindred pal Kat! :)
Queasy greetings from the Titanic..wanna dig a tunnel straight north :/
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Hi Dawasatso! Great to see you too! I've been lurking and learning, without much imput.
 Quoting: katballoo

Glad you're among us somewhere lurking & learning with the rest of us...that it's even possible..same bottom line all over the world it's fantastic.
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Notes from Crimea: Remember that Crimeans have been suffering since beginning of March. No tourists, no stability. Now ruble crash & winter
 Quoting: Luisport

No insurgence either, if Crimea is occupied you would be hearing about an insurgency.
Now would be the perfect time to throw off the Russian occupiers.
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I wonder what kind of lies they're telling the Crimeans to make them believe that it's all Ukraine's fault and not Russia's. Because you know they're giving them an intense dose of propaganda doing just that.
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.@UNICEFwarns of ‘extremely serious’ situation for over 1 mil children in eastern #Ukraine

Very very sad news
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431287


is the porky plan ... :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66188549


Yep, he already said their children will hole up in the basements:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Disgusting scumbag really he is...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

There are many scumbags in this affair, you, chief amoung them, 58 posts per day. The parents, the families, the communities are responsible for those children. The so-called separatists are in total control of their territory-it is their responsibility to care for the people under their charge.


Tell me, Hippocrates, how many children were suffering in Eastern Ukraine prior to Girkin, Borodai and Bezler showing up?

Thos children suffer because their parents are insurgents, or follow the lead of the insurgents. This is why children suffer. The mighty NAF ought to have considered the welfare of their children prior to launching a civil war.

What have you done to help rescue the children and women in need in NAF controlled territory?

NOTHING, you loud mouth coward.
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.@UNICEFwarns of ‘extremely serious’ situation for over 1 mil children in eastern #Ukraine

Very very sad news
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431287


is the porky plan ... :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66188549


Yep, he already said their children will hole up in the basements:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Disgusting scumbag really he is...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

There are many scumbags in this affair, you, chief amoung them, 58 posts per day. The parents, the families, the communities are responsible for those children. The so-called separatists are in total control of their territory-it is their responsibility to care for the people under their charge.


Tell me, Hippocrates, how many children were suffering in Eastern Ukraine prior to Girkin, Borodai and Bezler showing up?

Thos children suffer because their parents are insurgents, or follow the lead of the insurgents. This is why children suffer. The mighty NAF ought to have considered the welfare of their children prior to launching a civil war.

What have you done to help rescue the children and women in need in NAF controlled territory?

NOTHING, you loud mouth coward.
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hesright
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How can any leader justify wanting to become buddies with a dictatorship like North Korea?

Despicable actions by Putin.
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Bulgaria just wont give up, they say they will build infrastructure for South Stream despite Gazprom already cancelling the project...welcome to EU where fictitious projects are being made that will just swallow money after stalling real projects good for the economy for years. Erhm [link to russian.rt.com]
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Corruption at work like here where every "project" costs double or more than announced at start.
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Real corruption is Putin and Gazprom LYING to the world by announcing the Chinese/Gazprom 400 billion usd gas deal was done, was complete, knowing it was not complete.

Putin lied to his people, declared a false victory and betrayed his people.
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.@UNICEFwarns of ‘extremely serious’ situation for over 1 mil children in eastern #Ukraine

Very very sad news
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431287


is the porky plan ... :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66188549


Yep, he already said their children will hole up in the basements:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Disgusting scumbag really he is...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

There are many scumbags in this affair, you, chief amoung them, 58 posts per day. The parents, the families, the communities are responsible for those children. The so-called separatists are in total control of their territory-it is their responsibility to care for the people under their charge.


Tell me, Hippocrates, how many children were suffering in Eastern Ukraine prior to Girkin, Borodai and Bezler showing up?

Thos children suffer because their parents are insurgents, or follow the lead of the insurgents. This is why children suffer. The mighty NAF ought to have considered the welfare of their children prior to launching a civil war.

What have you done to help rescue the children and women in need in NAF controlled territory?

NOTHING, you loud mouth coward.
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and b4 porky ?
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uky shill are unchained.

they upset cos cant beg more money from europe . and europe dont want uky in eu..

cruise
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is the porky plan ... :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66188549


Yep, he already said their children will hole up in the basements:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Disgusting scumbag really he is...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

There are many scumbags in this affair, you, chief amoung them, 58 posts per day. The parents, the families, the communities are responsible for those children. The so-called separatists are in total control of their territory-it is their responsibility to care for the people under their charge.


Tell me, Hippocrates, how many children were suffering in Eastern Ukraine prior to Girkin, Borodai and Bezler showing up?

Thos children suffer because their parents are insurgents, or follow the lead of the insurgents. This is why children suffer. The mighty NAF ought to have considered the welfare of their children prior to launching a civil war.

What have you done to help rescue the children and women in need in NAF controlled territory?

NOTHING, you loud mouth coward.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66223460


hesright
 Quoting: Hollow-Point Brian


you STILL don't get it huh?

the Soros sponsored Euromaidan instigated the entire conflict.

this is easily proven by the Nuland phone call.

Putin and Russia had NOTHING to do with how it started.





GLP