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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Implying russia gives a rat's a$$ about "taking" the Baltics or anywhere else.
Baltics, poland getting Aid to protect themselves against a non-existent threat is 200% bs as well as unnecessary...
who said it?..Kerry?
Kerry makes it real? Kerry steers the illusion, please tell me we're not THAT stupid. Certainly looks that way.

Again, western greed is projected onto the whole conversation which is no conversation at all.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


A non-existent threat? If Putin can go apeshit over a non-existent threat of Ukraine joining NATO then others can go apeshit over Putin's latest military moves.
 Quoting: Polemarchos

"non-existent threat of Ukraine joining NATO" - really?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.euronews.com]
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


That was 2008.

And the second link is only empty talk because there is a big BUT - "provided the country so wishes and provided the country fulfills the necessary criteria".
 Quoting: Polemarchos

Why can't you just admit your statement was BS? You said the threat was "non-existent", when I submit proof that NATO is still interesting in absorbing Ukriane you respond "but there are conditions". Haha.
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This might help explain the strong-arming--few people seem to want the RussFed passports:

Russian blogger Oleg Kozyrev, who has looked into the issue, reports that "...there are currently 27 districts in Crimea. Fomenko’s figures mean that on average, only about 740 in each applied for a Russian passport, even though some of these districts have populations of more than 65,000. That means that only slightly more than one percent of the residents have decided to take this step so far.

It is of course true that some Crimean residents already have passports or are seeking to avoid what some have claimed are “long lines” for those who apply now. But the figures Fomenko offers do help to explain why the Russian authorities, apparently “in a panic,” are threatening “’to hand out passports automatically’” to boost the numbers."

(From "The Real 'Crimean Referendum'", [link to www.interpretermag.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20537083


First, this reflects a real number of those who voted for joining Russia. Second, it also shows that even those who feels a sympathy for Russia in general when it concerns himself personally don't like to return to a KGB camp similar to that existed in the USSR, but without a social protection.
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I agree--it's one thing to be Russian culturally, quite another to have to decide to live under Putin's increasingly-neurotic rampaging.
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Yes it is clear you like to post unfiltered all anti-Russia propaganda, never responding when it is shown how laughably stupid it is. It proves you are such a clever guy that you can follow such complicated instructions to post bullshit on a web forum.
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A non-existent threat? If Putin can go apeshit over a non-existent threat of Ukraine joining NATO then others can go apeshit over Putin's latest military moves.
 Quoting: Polemarchos

"non-existent threat of Ukraine joining NATO" - really?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.euronews.com]
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


That was 2008.

And the second link is only empty talk because there is a big BUT - "provided the country so wishes and provided the country fulfills the necessary criteria".
 Quoting: Polemarchos

Why can't you just admit your statement was BS? You said the threat was "non-existent", when I submit proof that NATO is still interesting in absorbing Ukriane you respond "but there are conditions". Haha.
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Why don't you go shill somewhere else?
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US wants independent, European future for Moldova
[link to hosted.ap.org]

who asked them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56239567


Moldova already signed the association agreement last year. It now needs to be ratified by parliament. AP didn't get the story right.
 Quoting: Polemarchos

Yes because we all know that being annexed by or a colony of the EU makes you "independent", "free" and "democractic", really, by definition :).

And nice it is to be ratified by "parliament". I guess having a people's vote - that would be anti-democratic and unfair, since nobody else in Europe got a chance to vote about that (well, a few did but voted against, so they just did away with the whole people's voice thing, it's a quaint concept, but not reliable). Rule of law, you know.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


You guys that keep yapping about colony this and colony that you just don't get it that a small country will end up being someone's colony anyway. So it's only a question of what's the least evil of the options. That's all. You talk shit about the EU but were you ever a Russian colony?
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Trying to get a line on some new pics of the 30 choppers that landed in Valuyki yesterday - someone was able to sneak out some footage. Of course if the choppers are no longer there, that's even scarier.
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I have seen a couple of pics. purportedly getting ready to invade ukraine?
and certainly not related to nuclear drills or otherwise undertaken by russia?

its just difficult to believe when every time movement is detected it is reported as in relation to ukraine.

sure, russia is looking at that option if necessary, but who wouldn't when backed into a corner as they are by those same people who benefit from the russian invasion propaganda.
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But I am of the personal view that Putin is sliding downward into lunacy.

I don't bear him any ill-will personally, but I desire that his ill-intentioned psychosis be prevented from hurting civilians.
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lol good cop bad cop
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A non-existent threat? If Putin can go apeshit over a non-existent threat of Ukraine joining NATO then others can go apeshit over Putin's latest military moves.
 Quoting: Polemarchos

"non-existent threat of Ukraine joining NATO" - really?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.euronews.com]
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


That was 2008.

And the second link is only empty talk because there is a big BUT - "provided the country so wishes and provided the country fulfills the necessary criteria".
 Quoting: Polemarchos

Why can't you just admit your statement was BS? You said the threat was "non-existent", when I submit proof that NATO is still interesting in absorbing Ukriane you respond "but there are conditions". Haha.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


NATO has signalled they will look to relax restrictions on joining, and will try to speed up the ukranian process, just in the past couple of weeks.
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US wants independent, European future for Moldova
[link to hosted.ap.org]

who asked them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56239567


Moldova already signed the association agreement last year. It now needs to be ratified by parliament. AP didn't get the story right.
 Quoting: Polemarchos

Yes because we all know that being annexed by or a colony of the EU makes you "independent", "free" and "democractic", really, by definition :).

And nice it is to be ratified by "parliament". I guess having a people's vote - that would be anti-democratic and unfair, since nobody else in Europe got a chance to vote about that (well, a few did but voted against, so they just did away with the whole people's voice thing, it's a quaint concept, but not reliable). Rule of law, you know.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


You guys that keep yapping about colony this and colony that you just don't get it that a small country will end up being someone's colony anyway. So it's only a question of what's the least evil of the options. That's all. You talk shit about the EU but were you ever a Russian colony?
 Quoting: Polemarchos

What is a Russian colony? Do you have an example? (And I don't mean USSR, that was not Russia, that was Communists and this is other force.)

As to EU colonies, most of the third world is an EU or US neo-colony. There are many poor and corrupt countries in the world. Would you like to live in Saudi Arabia? These guys are very very good friends with EU and US. Indeed, the British put the "Saudis" in power, from one monarchy to the other.
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lol good cop bad cop
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Personally I think you have displayed more lunacy in your 20 posts in the last few hours here than Putin has displayed in a lifetime.
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But I am of the personal view that Putin is sliding downward into lunacy.

I don't bear him any ill-will personally, but I desire that his ill-intentioned psychosis be prevented from hurting civilians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20537083


If Putin has indeed went "Commando" in his head, it means this whole situation will most certainly escalate into a nuclear conflict.

abomb
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lol good cop bad cop
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Personally I think you have displayed more lunacy in your 20 posts in the last few hours here than Putin has displayed in a lifetime.
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I'm not sure why anyone is cranked up about my posts. I'm just adding bits of late breaking info.

Seems a little "doth protest too much" to me.
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I'm still guessing something will happen by Monday or Tuesday, as others are saying.

Maybe the Tatars will bid the troops äyerle yul, lol.
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But I am of the personal view that Putin is sliding downward into lunacy.

I don't bear him any ill-will personally, but I desire that his ill-intentioned psychosis be prevented from hurting civilians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20537083


If Putin has indeed went "Commando" in his head, it means this whole situation will most certainly escalate into a nuclear conflict.

abomb
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My personal hunch is that he has gone Red October. Only not in a good way. I think that's why a pretext was created to fill the Indian Ocean with eyes.
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But I am of the personal view that Putin is sliding downward into lunacy.

I don't bear him any ill-will personally, but I desire that his ill-intentioned psychosis be prevented from hurting civilians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20537083


If Putin has indeed went "Commando" in his head, it means this whole situation will most certainly escalate into a nuclear conflict.

abomb
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33376107


My personal hunch is that he has gone Red October. Only not in a good way. I think that's why a pretext was created to fill the Indian Ocean with eyes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20537083


(And sonars).
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lol good cop bad cop
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20537083

Personally I think you have displayed more lunacy in your 20 posts in the last few hours here than Putin has displayed in a lifetime.
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I'm not sure why anyone is cranked up about my posts. I'm just adding bits of late breaking info.

Seems a little "doth protest too much" to me.
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your posting the same and similar things. at comes over as pedantic to me.
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lol good cop bad cop
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20537083

Personally I think you have displayed more lunacy in your 20 posts in the last few hours here than Putin has displayed in a lifetime.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


I'm not sure why anyone is cranked up about my posts. I'm just adding bits of late breaking info.

Seems a little "doth protest too much" to me.
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You are posting a bunch of BS, nothing "breaking" about any of it. Last two posts, one about "breaking info" that you think Putin is insane, followed by "breaking info" of "good cop bad cop lol"), and before that also posting a bunch of childish propaganda as some revelation of truth.
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A non-existent threat? If Putin can go apeshit over a non-existent threat of Ukraine joining NATO then others can go apeshit over Putin's latest military moves.
 Quoting: Polemarchos

"non-existent threat of Ukraine joining NATO" - really?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.euronews.com]
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


That was 2008.

And the second link is only empty talk because there is a big BUT - "provided the country so wishes and provided the country fulfills the necessary criteria".
 Quoting: Polemarchos

Why can't you just admit your statement was BS? You said the threat was "non-existent", when I submit proof that NATO is still interesting in absorbing Ukriane you respond "but there are conditions". Haha.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Saying the door is open BUT only if Ukraine meets certain conditions and the whole of Ukraine agrees on this (a known impossibility!) is not a serious threat. It's just a general statement.
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Here is a bit of info on the BIG BAD BEAR that is coming to get ya
Russia
Income tax. Flat rate of just 13%
Russia gave 35 million families, that is 71% of population free agricultural land and showed them how to grow food. To day they provide 51% of russias needs in meat, grain and veg
And guess what? These families don't pay taxes.
They get to keep what they sell from these lands.
Now you know why there are so many russian tourists all ovef the world. No, they were not all from billionaire families. These are ordinary russians who according to research are set to be richest individual working families in the world.

Corporate tax in russia is flat rate of just 20%
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Moldova already signed the association agreement last year. It now needs to be ratified by parliament. AP didn't get the story right.
 Quoting: Polemarchos

Yes because we all know that being annexed by or a colony of the EU makes you "independent", "free" and "democractic", really, by definition :).

And nice it is to be ratified by "parliament". I guess having a people's vote - that would be anti-democratic and unfair, since nobody else in Europe got a chance to vote about that (well, a few did but voted against, so they just did away with the whole people's voice thing, it's a quaint concept, but not reliable). Rule of law, you know.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


You guys that keep yapping about colony this and colony that you just don't get it that a small country will end up being someone's colony anyway. So it's only a question of what's the least evil of the options. That's all. You talk shit about the EU but were you ever a Russian colony?
 Quoting: Polemarchos

What is a Russian colony? Do you have an example? (And I don't mean USSR, that was not Russia, that was Communists and this is other force.)

 Quoting: Sun_dancer


You are utterly naive. Russian Empire, USSR, Russian Federation.... same shit. Russians will be Russians.
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We really need to find out for sure who hired those snipers.
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That will never happen, but it's logical to assume they had to be persons that spoke fluently in Ukrainian language and looked like Slavic people. So I would say it's a high chance that they were Ukrainians or Russians living in Ukraine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29116848

Don't forget many Israelis speak fluent Russian. And there were admittedly numerous Israeli IDF "ex" soldiers "helping" the radicals in Maidan.

I mention Russian-speaking because IIRC there were allegations the snipers were speaking to each other over walkie-talkies in Russian. I don't know how credible this is, since I would think they would use either cellphones or secure walkie-talkies to communicate, unless they were trying to frame "Russians" or they were amateurs, or both.
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The intent was to frame Russia, but its already been proven they were not working on behest of Russia, meaning not hired by them. Some were Russian right wing radicals and a couple were arrested on their way back to Russia by FSB and they told some interesting stories who was there exactly and why they ended up leaving. US Military guys for example and Germans who took papers that were stolen/seized out of Officials homes. They were using radicals from various countries not just Ukraine to do the storming of villas and appartments, and the snipers were hired by the same people.

One just needs to apply logic who would benefit from escalation and its always the same ones everywhere.
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"non-existent threat of Ukraine joining NATO" - really?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.euronews.com]
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


That was 2008.

And the second link is only empty talk because there is a big BUT - "provided the country so wishes and provided the country fulfills the necessary criteria".
 Quoting: Polemarchos

Why can't you just admit your statement was BS? You said the threat was "non-existent", when I submit proof that NATO is still interesting in absorbing Ukriane you respond "but there are conditions". Haha.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Why don't you go shill somewhere else?
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Why don't people admit when they are wrong? Why don't people respond to facts with facts? It seems to me when people realize they have no argument or have been proven wrong they resort to name calling.
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Non-NATO member Ukraine’s policy on joining the alliance has changed over the past decade, but cooperation between the two has “grown steadily stronger as a result”, Rasmussen said.
And he referred to NATO and the European Union’s expansion over the last 15 years which had provided the new members’ democracies with “the strongest possible anchor” and also benefited NATO. The right of sovereign nations to choose their own course was one of the foundations of modern Europe, he said.
“That principle has stood us in good stead since the day NATO was founded.
“We must all stand by it today.”
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"non-existent threat of Ukraine joining NATO" - really?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.euronews.com]
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


That was 2008.

And the second link is only empty talk because there is a big BUT - "provided the country so wishes and provided the country fulfills the necessary criteria".
 Quoting: Polemarchos

Why can't you just admit your statement was BS? You said the threat was "non-existent", when I submit proof that NATO is still interesting in absorbing Ukriane you respond "but there are conditions". Haha.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Saying the door is open BUT only if Ukraine meets certain conditions and the whole of Ukraine agrees on this (a known impossibility!) is not a serious threat. It's just a general statement.
 Quoting: Polemarchos

Of course we know that NATO has been itching to add Ukraine to NATO for at least 20 years ( [link to www.nato.int] - actually even longer), and that NATO has absorbed many of Russia's neighbors already (Baltic states), and is trying now to absorb Georiga and Moldova. We also have statements from NATO (very recent, despite all that is going on) about wanting to absorb Ukraine (linked above). see also [link to www.dw.de] and [link to www.dw.de]

By the way, if joining NATO is off the table, why wouldn't Ukrainian government agree to put this in the constitution?

In despite all of this, you want to make claim that this threat is "non-existent".

whatever

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We really need to find out for sure who hired those snipers.
 Quoting: RBR


That will never happen, but it's logical to assume they had to be persons that spoke fluently in Ukrainian language and looked like Slavic people. So I would say it's a high chance that they were Ukrainians or Russians living in Ukraine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29116848

Don't forget many Israelis speak fluent Russian. And there were admittedly numerous Israeli IDF "ex" soldiers "helping" the radicals in Maidan.

I mention Russian-speaking because IIRC there were allegations the snipers were speaking to each other over walkie-talkies in Russian. I don't know how credible this is, since I would think they would use either cellphones or secure walkie-talkies to communicate, unless they were trying to frame "Russians" or they were amateurs, or both.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


The intent was to frame Russia, but its already been proven they were not working on behest of Russia, meaning not hired by them. Some were Russian right wing radicals and a couple were arrested on their way back to Russia by FSB and they told some interesting stories who was there exactly and why they ended up leaving. US Military guys for example and Germans who took papers that were stolen/seized out of Officials homes. They were using radicals from various countries not just Ukraine to do the storming of villas and appartments, and the snipers were hired by the same people.

One just needs to apply logic who would benefit from escalation and its always the same ones everywhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55101830


Thanks for bringing this up, and reminding me of a few important facts.

It is so easy to forget these very small points when the news is coming so thick from all sides of the story.
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Here is a bit of info on the BIG BAD BEAR that is coming to get ya
Russia
Income tax. Flat rate of just 13%
Russia gave 35 million families, that is 71% of population free agricultural land and showed them how to grow food. To day they provide 51% of russias needs in meat, grain and veg
And guess what? These families don't pay taxes.
They get to keep what they sell from these lands.
Now you know why there are so many russian tourists all ovef the world. No, they were not all from billionaire families. These are ordinary russians who according to research are set to be richest individual working families in the world.

Corporate tax in russia is flat rate of just 20%
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I thought these guys were communists bastards that took all your money and left you in poverty?
Remind me again why we think russia is bad for the world?
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Rami said something about big news comign from eastern ukraine very soon a few hours ago...take it for what it's worth he's been off lately
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@L0gg0l: PUTIN WANTS TO REGAIN FINLAND FOR RUSSIA, ADVISER SAYS [link to t.co]
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That was 2008.

And the second link is only empty talk because there is a big BUT - "provided the country so wishes and provided the country fulfills the necessary criteria".
 Quoting: Polemarchos

Why can't you just admit your statement was BS? You said the threat was "non-existent", when I submit proof that NATO is still interesting in absorbing Ukriane you respond "but there are conditions". Haha.
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Saying the door is open BUT only if Ukraine meets certain conditions and the whole of Ukraine agrees on this (a known impossibility!) is not a serious threat. It's just a general statement.
 Quoting: Polemarchos

Of course we know that NATO has been itching to add Ukraine to NATO for at least 20 years ( [link to www.nato.int] - actually even longer), and that NATO has absorbed many of Russia's neighbors already (Baltic states), and is trying now to absorb Georiga and Moldova. We also have statements from NATO (very recent, despite all that is going on) about wanting to absorb Ukraine (linked above). see also [link to www.dw.de] and [link to www.dw.de]

By the way, if joining NATO is off the table, why wouldn't Ukrainian government agree to put this in the constitution?

In despite all of this, you want to make claim that this threat is "non-existent".

whatever
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Ukraine abandoned the path to NATO membership in 2010. And Ukraine didn't meet the conditions anyway because it had Russian base(s) on its soil. So.... in 2013-2014 there was no real threat of it to join NATO.
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But I am of the personal view that Putin is sliding downward into lunacy.

I don't bear him any ill-will personally, but I desire that his ill-intentioned psychosis be prevented from hurting civilians.
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I don't believe that you actually believe this. Every time the West decides that someone is their enemy that person magically becomes crazy: Saddam, Kim Jong Un, Kadaffi, Snowden, etc. None of these people were crazy, and neither is Putin. Stop with the "land grab", "delusional", talking points. Nobody is buying it. When does Assad become "delusional"? If there ever were candidates for someone actually being crazy, the US is full of them: John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Peter King, Barack Obama, etc.





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