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User ID: 52086730 United States 07/04/2014 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 WSJ - Ukraine Military Faces New Challenge in East: Governing [link to online.wsj.com] |
4thhorseman
User ID: 15383548 United States 07/04/2014 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 What, are they feeling guilt for killing women and children of their own country? Tell me, Hindend, do you think that is right to do that? or would it be better to work things out with talking? Last Edited by 4thhorseman on 07/04/2014 10:40 PM SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56926887 Poland 07/04/2014 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Over 3,000 will be built... [link to www.f35.com (secure)] [link to theaviationist.com] [link to www.funker530.com] [link to theaviationist.com] [link to static.techgraffiti.com] [link to www.sldinfo.com] |
Skeptic the First
User ID: 46420627 United States 07/04/2014 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 1. In a situation like the one you have stated, you use special forces instead of artillery and the air force. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59855712 Every military quite rightly uses whichever weapons it wields best. I must once again emphasize: An armed force (including an insurgency) is generally required to separate itself from the civilian population whenever feasible. Thus, military bases and camps should ordinarily be set up outside urban districts. If the armed force/insurgency genuinely believes that military necessity requires holding an urban district, that armed force/insurgency is required to evacuate the civilian population from the district. Refusal/neglect to do so is tantamount to the murder of the civilian population. Or as Strelkov correctly said: [link to slavyangrad.wordpress.com] --- Over thirty thousand civilians are still left here. I [Strelkov] am being asked to take on the responsibility for their death. --- Last Edited by Skeptic the First on 07/04/2014 10:45 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56926887 Poland 07/04/2014 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 With the introductions of CF-18A aircraft which have more capabilities than any current Ukrainian aircraft and Patriot anti-air/anti-missile batteries, Ukraine's chances of survival against Russian invasion go from less than 50% to greater than 50%. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59892734 United States 07/04/2014 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 What, are they feeling guilt for killing women and children of their own country? Tell me, Hindend, do you think that is right to do that? or would it be better to work things out with talking? well, that's why Putin hasn't invaded yet. because he is still trying to talk to all of these yeahoos, to no avail obviously. . |
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FormerlyBritish
User ID: 55803746 United States 07/04/2014 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 With the introductions of CF-18A aircraft which have more capabilities than any current Ukrainian aircraft and Patriot anti-air/anti-missile batteries, Ukraine's chances of survival against Russian invasion go from less than 50% to greater than 50%. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887 If there was going to be an invasion it would have happened long ago. Ukraine will simply be left to die on the vine, devoid of economy, money, energy or civil order. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56926887 Poland 07/04/2014 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This entire thing wont be over until the entire Putin and Kadyrov regimes are hanging from lampposts. However, I suspect Putin will take the coward's way out like his idol Hitler did... with a self-inflicted bullet to the head while cornered in a bunker. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44820810 United States 07/04/2014 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin shall lose, Ukraine shall take back Crimea and more up to St. Petersburg, and the Russian propaganda drivel shall erode away. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59472274 bs. the F-35 fiasco shows the Pentagons mentality when it comes to efficiency. Oh yea..Russian SAM's are 10 years ahead of NATO. and the newest SAM's are 15-20 years ahead according to the Russians. Bwahahahahahaha ... you said it, so it must be true. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44820810 United States 07/04/2014 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Mighty Putler is silent, when the people he vowed to protect get slaughtered like pigs. Silent Putler when his brothers and sisters cry for his help. Silent Putler=Impotent Putler. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44820810 when the Russian bear charges it will be a mighty roar. . AK-74 30 round magazine = dead bear, dead roar. i wish i had such a simple view of life :) A bear charges me, bear gets killed. I think every man is agreeable to this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59834769 United States 07/04/2014 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 i wish i had such a simple view of life :) A bear charges me, bear gets killed. I think every man is agreeable to this. The only thing I would differ on is I would prefer a 30-06 instead of an AK round. More bear kill potential per round. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44820810 United States 07/04/2014 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 If you rebel against the United states in a small region of new mexico, I say we should just give it to mexico. If they want to join so badly, they vote too join by overwhelming odds, then we should let them. This instance makes more sense to an American. But this is the fact of the matter in Crimea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49845998 Problem is Putin invaded Crimea first. Then held the famous referendum. How about voting before the invasion? Seems a little more civil. Putler invasion begat Putler sham 'referendum' begat laughable Putler annexation, begat sham Duma approval. I did enjoy Putin's high heels though, when he addressed the nation. |
FormerlyBritish
User ID: 55803746 United States 07/04/2014 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44820810 Wall Street Journal, mouthpiece of the obscene. Journal of vitriol and hate. The men will simply have to emigrate to Russia and build new lives there. Which is what Kiev wants anyway, ethnic cleansing. No point in remaining in a place that is fast becoming a failed state. And Russia, for its part, will have to regain the expertise to build whole new cities, as it did under Nikita Khrushchev. It's a good job Russia needs ethnically Russian immigrants to counterbalance the Asian influx. Last Edited by FormerlyBritish on 07/04/2014 11:09 PM |
4thhorseman
User ID: 15383548 United States 07/04/2014 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This entire thing wont be over until the entire Putin and Kadyrov regimes are hanging from lampposts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887 However, I suspect Putin will take the coward's way out like his idol Hitler did... with a self-inflicted bullet to the head while cornered in a bunker. So, let me ask you Pollock, who is attacking who? The eastern Ukrainians are in their homes, the west and Kiev are coming to them to kill them and the families. Eastern Ukrainians are protecting and defending themselves. Who is in the wrong. doesn't matter if Russia is involved because that would say the US and the western countries are involved. So, we have Ukrainians going over to another area and killing their own country men. why would they do that. Would you as a Pollock kill other Pollock's and their families because another country told you to? I think not.. So, we have people wanting to be free and others coming in to kill them to take control and you still believe this is right? SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
FormerlyBritish
User ID: 55803746 United States 07/04/2014 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 If you rebel against the United states in a small region of new mexico, I say we should just give it to mexico. If they want to join so badly, they vote too join by overwhelming odds, then we should let them. This instance makes more sense to an American. But this is the fact of the matter in Crimea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49845998 How about voting before the invasion? Seems a little more civil. Putler invasion begat Putler sham 'referendum' begat laughable Putler annexation, begat sham Duma approval. I did enjoy Putin's high heels though, when he addressed the nation. I can see why you remain Anonymous Coward rather than open a free account and receive GLP Karma. There is nothing but bile and disease in your heart. |
4thhorseman
User ID: 15383548 United States 07/04/2014 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 If you rebel against the United states in a small region of new mexico, I say we should just give it to mexico. If they want to join so badly, they vote too join by overwhelming odds, then we should let them. This instance makes more sense to an American. But this is the fact of the matter in Crimea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49845998 Problem is Putin invaded Crimea first. Then held the famous referendum. How about voting before the invasion? Seems a little more civil. Putler invasion begat Putler sham 'referendum' begat laughable Putler annexation, begat sham Duma approval. I did enjoy Putin's high heels though, when he addressed the nation. Doesn't matter if you think Putin invaded Crimea or not, take that as a second obstacle. First is why are Ukrainians from the west going over and killing Ukrainians in the east. after they stop killing their own countrymen then they can deal with Crimea. SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44820810 United States 07/04/2014 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 2. The insurgents are civilians (armed an dangerous but still civilians). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59855712 If you are wielding a weapon, you are most definitely a combatant. [link to en.wikipedia.org] --- A combatant is a person who takes a direct part in the hostilities of an armed conflict. If a combatant follows the law of war, then he or she is considered a privileged combatant and upon capture, he or she will qualify as a prisoner of war under the Third Geneva Convention (GCIII). An unprivileged combatant is a person, such as a mercenary, who takes a direct part in the hostilities but who upon capture does not qualify for prisoner-of-war status. --- Strelkov meets the definition of a mercenary, because his nation is not an admitted party to the conflict and thus his involvement is clearly for the purpose of personal glory. If captured, he should be treated not as a POW but as an international war criminal. [link to en.wikipedia.org] --- A mercenary is a person who takes part in an armed conflict, who is not a national or a party to the conflict and is "motivated to take part in the hostilities by the desire for private gain." --- |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56926887 Poland 07/04/2014 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This entire thing wont be over until the entire Putin and Kadyrov regimes are hanging from lampposts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887 However, I suspect Putin will take the coward's way out like his idol Hitler did... with a self-inflicted bullet to the head while cornered in a bunker. So, let me ask you Pollock, who is attacking who? The eastern Ukrainians are in their homes, the west and Kiev are coming to them to kill them and the families. Eastern Ukrainians are protecting and defending themselves. Who is in the wrong. doesn't matter if Russia is involved because that would say the US and the western countries are involved. So, we have Ukrainians going over to another area and killing their own country men. why would they do that. Would you as a Pollock kill other Pollock's and their families because another country told you to? I think not.. So, we have people wanting to be free and others coming in to kill them to take control and you still believe this is right? What you are falsely describing is a civil war, which this is not. That is what Russian propaganda would have people believe, but that effort fails. This is very simply a war of aggression by Russia against Ukraine, all of Ukraine. |
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4thhorseman
User ID: 15383548 United States 07/04/2014 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This entire thing wont be over until the entire Putin and Kadyrov regimes are hanging from lampposts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887 However, I suspect Putin will take the coward's way out like his idol Hitler did... with a self-inflicted bullet to the head while cornered in a bunker. So, let me ask you Pollock, who is attacking who? The eastern Ukrainians are in their homes, the west and Kiev are coming to them to kill them and the families. Eastern Ukrainians are protecting and defending themselves. Who is in the wrong. doesn't matter if Russia is involved because that would say the US and the western countries are involved. So, we have Ukrainians going over to another area and killing their own country men. why would they do that. Would you as a Pollock kill other Pollock's and their families because another country told you to? I think not.. So, we have people wanting to be free and others coming in to kill them to take control and you still believe this is right? What you are falsely describing is a civil war, which this is not. That is what Russian propaganda would have people believe, but that effort fails. This is very simply a war of aggression by Russia against Ukraine, all of Ukraine. So, you're tell me Ukrainians from the west are not over killing Ukrainians in the east? You're fucking lying to yourself man.. and no it's not a civil war, same thing we had here in the States in the 1860s.. it's one group trying to get the fuck away from the other and not be serfs.. You ee how well that worked out here right.. the US of Serfdom.. Wake up man Uks are killing Uks and the ones in the east are trying to defend themselves right now.. SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
4thhorseman
User ID: 15383548 United States 07/04/2014 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This entire thing wont be over until the entire Putin and Kadyrov regimes are hanging from lampposts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887 However, I suspect Putin will take the coward's way out like his idol Hitler did... with a self-inflicted bullet to the head while cornered in a bunker. So, let me ask you Pollock, who is attacking who? The eastern Ukrainians are in their homes, the west and Kiev are coming to them to kill them and the families. Eastern Ukrainians are protecting and defending themselves. Who is in the wrong. doesn't matter if Russia is involved because that would say the US and the western countries are involved. So, we have Ukrainians going over to another area and killing their own country men. why would they do that. Would you as a Pollock kill other Pollock's and their families because another country told you to? I think not.. So, we have people wanting to be free and others coming in to kill them to take control and you still believe this is right? What you are falsely describing is a civil war, which this is not. That is what Russian propaganda would have people believe, but that effort fails. This is very simply a war of aggression by Russia against Ukraine, all of Ukraine. So, you're tell me Ukrainians from the west are not over killing Ukrainians in the east? You're fucking lying to yourself man.. and no it's not a civil war, same thing we had here in the States in the 1860s.. it's one group trying to get the fuck away from the other and not be serfs.. You ee how well that worked out here right.. the US of Serfdom.. Wake up man Uks are killing Uks and the ones in the east are trying to defend themselves right now.. Plus I don't see Russia helping the western Uks so how is it an aggression from Russia? Wake the fuck up!!! SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44820810 United States 07/04/2014 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 NATO considering emergency lend-lease of Patriot anti-aircraft/anti-ballistic missile batteries for Ukraine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887 now there's one hell'uv'a provocation. Apparently, NATO didn't get the memo. Russian SAMs are 20 years advanced to NATOs pea shooters. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59892734 United States 07/04/2014 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This entire thing wont be over until the entire Putin and Kadyrov regimes are hanging from lampposts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887 However, I suspect Putin will take the coward's way out like his idol Hitler did... with a self-inflicted bullet to the head while cornered in a bunker. So, let me ask you Pollock, who is attacking who? The eastern Ukrainians are in their homes, the west and Kiev are coming to them to kill them and the families. Eastern Ukrainians are protecting and defending themselves. Who is in the wrong. doesn't matter if Russia is involved because that would say the US and the western countries are involved. So, we have Ukrainians going over to another area and killing their own country men. why would they do that. Would you as a Pollock kill other Pollock's and their families because another country told you to? I think not.. So, we have people wanting to be free and others coming in to kill them to take control and you still believe this is right? What you are falsely describing is a civil war, which this is not. That is what Russian propaganda would have people believe, but that effort fails. This is very simply a war of aggression by Russia against Ukraine, all of Ukraine. So, you're tell me Ukrainians from the west are not over killing Ukrainians in the east? You're fucking lying to yourself man.. and no it's not a civil war, same thing we had here in the States in the 1860s.. it's one group trying to get the fuck away from the other and not be serfs.. You ee how well that worked out here right.. the US of Serfdom.. Wake up man Uks are killing Uks and the ones in the east are trying to defend themselves right now.. face it. Ukraine will have to be partitioned: all of the ethnic Ukrainians will have to move to Poland, and the Russkies get the rest. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59191458 United States 07/04/2014 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This entire thing wont be over until the entire Putin and Kadyrov regimes are hanging from lampposts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887 However, I suspect Putin will take the coward's way out like his idol Hitler did... with a self-inflicted bullet to the head while cornered in a bunker. So, let me ask you Pollock, who is attacking who? The eastern Ukrainians are in their homes, the west and Kiev are coming to them to kill them and the families. Eastern Ukrainians are protecting and defending themselves. Who is in the wrong. doesn't matter if Russia is involved because that would say the US and the western countries are involved. So, we have Ukrainians going over to another area and killing their own country men. why would they do that. Would you as a Pollock kill other Pollock's and their families because another country told you to? I think not.. So, we have people wanting to be free and others coming in to kill them to take control and you still believe this is right? <= simple truth |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44820810 United States 07/04/2014 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Over 3,000 will be built... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887 [link to www.f35.com (secure)] [link to theaviationist.com] [link to www.funker530.com] [link to theaviationist.com] [link to static.techgraffiti.com] [link to www.sldinfo.com] Here is the closest Russia is to a 5th gen fighter, and this PAK_FA is still in the flight testing stage. [link to www.flightglobal.com] |