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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Yes, exactly, they plan to launch their surprise attack shortly after they secretly managing to coax their entire population into bunkers.
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And about getting their population into those bunkers without giving away a surprise attack. It’s pretty obvious.

When you have a bunker system like that, you will have drills that you will normally conduct to get people use to using the bunkers on a moments notice. Same as many US towns and schools have fire, and tornado drills. Like the US had civil defense drills during the cold war.

If they have that bunker system. It will be natural that they have occasional scheduled, and sometimes unscheduled drills. Have them often enough that your enemy no longer pays attention to them.

On that fateful day, have an unscheduled drill. Wait for the shelters to fill. About the time that people are expecting, and getting ready for the all clear. That is when the audio warning will go over the speakers that “This is no longer a drill” That is when the nukes will go off from the surprise attack in the US, and at other US assets. A minute or two later, the missiles will be coming into Moscow from the retaliatory strike.
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Drills? When was last time all of Moscow had a drill, much less the whole country? And you'd have to stock the locations for the entire population.
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Allow Ukraine to fight for their land. If they can not hold positions, allow any other force who will fight against russian slavery to come to their aide. Poles, Baltics, Turkey...STOP THE KILLERS OF FREEDOM!! They killed you by the millions in WW2!
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The Kremlin just took over the only independent news site left in Russia. Their entire media is now basically state run.

There is no doubt in my mind Putin is trying to put the Soviet Union back together.
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horry shet really,..What was it called?
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Allow Ukraine to fight for their land. If they can not hold positions, allow any other force who will fight against russian slavery to come to their aide. Poles, Baltics, Turkey...STOP THE KILLERS OF FREEDOM!! They killed you by the millions in WW2!
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Let's be honest.. if the Russians launched a full scale invasion there is no way Ukraine could hold on its own.
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Allow Ukraine to fight for their land. If they can not hold positions, allow any other force who will fight against russian slavery to come to their aide. Poles, Baltics, Turkey...STOP THE KILLERS OF FREEDOM!! They killed you by the millions in WW2!
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"They killed you by millions in WW2" Who are "THEY"? Do you refer for the Soviet soldiers who liberated the world from the Nazi? They were both Ukrainians and Russians, both Kazakh and Tatar.
I don't mind Ukraine to be peaceful and united, as it were during past time BEFORE the Orange revolution. The European double standard sucks and f. So what, you propose the Turks to come in Europe to settle the things out, only because they are "NATO"? Did you forget the Iraqi war how the turks didnt give a damn shill for US forces there?
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Nothing will happen before the rigged election over the weekend.

After that, all bets are off.
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Exactly!

Which is why I'm trying to get this video of the leaked email from the pentagon (that took down YouTube today) on the front page :)

Please help any way you can...

This deception has to be exposed!
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stir
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You fucker...some of us are sick of the MIC running our life!

Just because there is MAD MONEY TO BE MADE doesn't mean it's right!

You remind me of the douchebag I used to date who said my 'tree hugging' neighbor was good so he could drive his viper...sheesh...

HOW MUCH FUCKING MONEY DO YOU NEED?

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Allow Ukraine to fight for their land. If they can not hold positions, allow any other force who will fight against russian slavery to come to their aide. Poles, Baltics, Turkey...STOP THE KILLERS OF FREEDOM!! They killed you by the millions in WW2!
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Let's be honest.. if the Russians launched a full scale invasion there is no way Ukraine could hold on its own.
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True, but they would put up a fight though.
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Allow Ukraine to fight for their land. If they can not hold positions, allow any other force who will fight against russian slavery to come to their aide. Poles, Baltics, Turkey...STOP THE KILLERS OF FREEDOM!! They killed you by the millions in WW2!
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"They killed you by millions in WW2" Who are "THEY"? Do you refer for the Soviet soldiers who liberated the world from the Nazi? They were both Ukrainians and Russians, both Kazakh and Tatar.
I don't mind Ukraine to be peaceful and united, as it were during past time BEFORE the Orange revolution. The European double standard sucks and f. So what, you propose the Turks to come in Europe to settle the things out, only because they are "NATO"? Did you forget the Iraqi war how the turks didnt give a damn shill for US forces there?
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If it was not for the Soviet Union sacrifice, now you Yanks would have studied German and bow before the Nazi ruler of the world, descendant of Hitler. You are as desperately outdated today as you were at that time! Why didn't you start the Western front 2 years earlier? More soviet soldiers to be killed 5:1 Germans and not you! F. your double standard, imperialists!
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Allow Ukraine to fight for their land. If they can not hold positions, allow any other force who will fight against russian slavery to come to their aide. Poles, Baltics, Turkey...STOP THE KILLERS OF FREEDOM!! They killed you by the millions in WW2!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55534337


Let's be honest.. if the Russians launched a full scale invasion there is no way Ukraine could hold on its own.
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True, but they would put up a fight though.
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I agree. Don't get me wrong I think they would too but I think the end result would be pretty inevitable.
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The Kremlin just took over the only independent news site left in Russia. Their entire media is now basically state run.

There is no doubt in my mind Putin is trying to put the Soviet Union back together.
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horry shet really,..What was it called?
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Lenta.ru
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The Kremlin just took over the only independent news site left in Russia. Their entire media is now basically state run.

There is no doubt in my mind Putin is trying to put the Soviet Union back together.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46651400


Like the Tom Clancy novel? No one else is thinking they're in a bad movie?
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Sorry to be harsh, and I'll take the bad karma but something is OFF with this thread...

Delusional...

Eagle vs. Bear BULLSHIT...

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Allow Ukraine to fight for their land. If they can not hold positions, allow any other force who will fight against russian slavery to come to their aide. Poles, Baltics, Turkey...STOP THE KILLERS OF FREEDOM!! They killed you by the millions in WW2!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55534337


"They killed you by millions in WW2" Who are "THEY"? Do you refer for the Soviet soldiers who liberated the world from the Nazi? They were both Ukrainians and Russians, both Kazakh and Tatar.
I don't mind Ukraine to be peaceful and united, as it were during past time BEFORE the Orange revolution. The European double standard sucks and f. So what, you propose the Turks to come in Europe to settle the things out, only because they are "NATO"? Did you forget the Iraqi war how the turks didnt give a damn shill for US forces there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


If it was not for the Soviet Union sacrifice, now you Yanks would have studied German and bow before the Nazi ruler of the world, descendant of Hitler. You are as desperately outdated today as you were at that time! Why didn't you start the Western front 2 years earlier? More soviet soldiers to be killed 5:1 Germans and not you! F. your double standard, imperialists!
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What did America and EU do for Yushchenko? He failed to secure a run-off spot during the 2010 Ukrainian presidential election; gaining 5.45% of the vote government. He marred in corruption never seen before. His son copyrighted the symbols of the Orange revolution and sold them. Shame! Now Maidan revolution that resolt to weapons on the streets. You got the power in Ukraine during the Orange one and did nothing! Now you blame the Russians that they want to walk out of that misery.

What did you do for Kosovo? Kosovo people immigrate to W.Europe only to be kicked out of there.

The Russian Ukrainians have every right to opt out of the hell that is being prepared in Kiev. 50% reduction of pensions as a start! Should they die of hunger? What a cynicism of "democracy". Ukraine is not the only country that is set on economic death row. Shame for the West! I'd wish to see you in position of Ukrainians and Kosovars, you over there!
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Russian leader has more patience than GLP.
He knows that if nothing spectacular happens, then decadent westerners attention-span deficit will cause them to go back to whatever idle pass-time they were up to earlier. Talking about the weather, speculating on the existence of UFOs,stock market etc, etc.
We are all victims of our own "success".
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Allow Ukraine to fight for their land. If they can not hold positions, allow any other force who will fight against russian slavery to come to their aide. Poles, Baltics, Turkey...STOP THE KILLERS OF FREEDOM!! They killed you by the millions in WW2!
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Let's be honest.. if the Russians launched a full scale invasion there is no way Ukraine could hold on its own.
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Then let them launch! Until then.....let them wait! In the meantime...let all forces in eastern europe, who remember the stories of their grandparents...those who were deported to slave camps in siberia. Those who's small republics who were rounded up so that russian generals and their families could take their place in the ethnic cleansing of the baltics could take place. The deportation and execution of crimean tartar's in ethenic cleansing. This is your fucking time for retribution!!!!
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Lenta.ru, the independent news site that the Kremlin basically just dissolved was the 5th most popular website in all of Europe.


Something is up. It was recently announced that Putin was strengthening his grip on RT, now they are taking over the last independent news sources left in Russia. I imagine the Kremlin has something bigger than just taking over Crimea in mind. Especially when you consider their recent military drill with over 200k troops.
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The Kremlin just took over the only independent news site left in Russia. Their entire media is now basically state run.

There is no doubt in my mind Putin is trying to put the Soviet Union back together.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46651400


horry shet really,..What was it called?
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Lenta.ru
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Darn, they got Lenta? No wonder it pulled down all pro-Crimean and pro-Ukrainian news and banned comments :( It was the final sane source of information in this country, who's slowing becoming crazier and more despotic :(
If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes.
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Wow...

Delusional...

Get united guys...

This arguing is doing nothing but solidifying the TPTB point!

Unless that is what you guys are here to do!?!

I get it...I get that this shit is flicked up and there are old ideas standing in the way...but c'mon guys, THIS IS LIKE SERIOUS BULLSHIT!

This isn't like the normal BS we deal with...the banksters are trying to SUFFOCATE US...please play nice...

hf

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The Kremlin just took over the only independent news site left in Russia. Their entire media is now basically state run.

There is no doubt in my mind Putin is trying to put the Soviet Union back together.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46651400


horry shet really,..What was it called?
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Lenta.ru
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46651400


Darn, they got Lenta? No wonder it pulled down all pro-Crimean and pro-Ukrainian news and banned comments :( It was the final sane source of information in this country, who's slowing becoming crazier and more despotic :(
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No better way to influence people than controlling the media. You won't believe what all the idiots that watch Fox News in the US will believe just because they heard it on TV.
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The Kremlin just took over the only independent news site left in Russia. Their entire media is now basically state run.

There is no doubt in my mind Putin is trying to put the Soviet Union back together.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46651400


horry shet really,..What was it called?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48087822


Lenta.ru
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46651400


Darn, they got Lenta? No wonder it pulled down all pro-Crimean and pro-Ukrainian news and banned comments :( It was the final sane source of information in this country, who's slowing becoming crazier and more despotic :(
 Quoting: Snuffielover


I tried the google translate tool on Lenta.

For some reasons I don't think I will get the real meaning of the news...

Here is one of the headlines:
"In Irkutsk, was arrested more than a thousand toilets"
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Drills? When was last time all of Moscow had a drill, much less the whole country? And you'd have to stock the locations for the entire population.
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Uh……. If they don’t have any drills, and the people have never practiced getting to those bunkers, and they don’t constantly keep them stocked with non perishable provisions in case the bunkers are ever used for their intended use with little to no warning……

Then why waste the time building them in the first place? All you would be doing is keeping them alive (the ones that are lucky enough to get there before the bombs go off) long enough to starve to death.

And people are saying that them building the bunkers shows that they care for their citizens. If that is the way they help the citizens prepare, I fail to see how they care for their citizens.

It can’t be both ways.

They either have a functional bunker system that the people know how to use, and have practiced evacuating to.

Or they don’t have a functional bunker system.

If they don’t have a functional bunker system, but they built them anyway, then I have to really ask WHY?

For them to even be used, you would have to have many days pre-warning to provision the bunkers, and get people into them before the strike happens. That would mean without a doubt, the only way they would be usable at all, is if Russia intended to do the first strike.

Any way you look at it, the bunker system lends to the idea that they are going to launch a first strike. That is the only way they would be useful. Prestocked, or not.
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Drills? When was last time all of Moscow had a drill, much less the whole country? And you'd have to stock the locations for the entire population.
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Uh……. If they don’t have any drills, and the people have never practiced getting to those bunkers, and they don’t constantly keep them stocked with non perishable provisions in case the bunkers are ever used for their intended use with little to no warning……

Then why waste the time building them in the first place? All you would be doing is keeping them alive (the ones that are lucky enough to get there before the bombs go off) long enough to starve to death.

And people are saying that them building the bunkers shows that they care for their citizens. If that is the way they help the citizens prepare, I fail to see how they care for their citizens.

It can’t be both ways.

They either have a functional bunker system that the people know how to use, and have practiced evacuating to.

Or they don’t have a functional bunker system.

If they don’t have a functional bunker system, but they built them anyway, then I have to really ask WHY?

For them to even be used, you would have to have many days pre-warning to provision the bunkers, and get people into them before the strike happens. That would mean without a doubt, the only way they would be usable at all, is if Russia intended to do the first strike.

Any way you look at it, the bunker system lends to the idea that they are going to launch a first strike. That is the only way they would be useful. Prestocked, or not.
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Unless... you have a really good network of moles in top level positions...
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Lenta.ru, the independent news site that the Kremlin basically just dissolved was the 5th most popular website in all of Europe.


Something is up. It was recently announced that Putin was strengthening his grip on RT, now they are taking over the last independent news sources left in Russia. I imagine the Kremlin has something bigger than just taking over Crimea in mind. Especially when you consider their recent military drill with over 200k troops.
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Dissolved? Link? It says here the owner replaced the editor after a governmental watchdog warned about interviews with ultra-nationalists which allegedly stirred ethnic hatred. [link to www.themalaysianinsider.com]
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The Kremlin just took over the only independent news site left in Russia. Their entire media is now basically state run.

There is no doubt in my mind Putin is trying to put the Soviet Union back together.
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No, this just means that they need to control all the media before they invade the whole of Ukraine. The US government already controls all state run media, CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews, so it is not a problem for them every time they invade another country.
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Lenta.ru, the independent news site that the Kremlin basically just dissolved was the 5th most popular website in all of Europe.


Something is up. It was recently announced that Putin was strengthening his grip on RT, now they are taking over the last independent news sources left in Russia. I imagine the Kremlin has something bigger than just taking over Crimea in mind. Especially when you consider their recent military drill with over 200k troops.
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Dissolved? Link? It says here the owner replaced the editor after a governmental watchdog warned about interviews with ultra-nationalists which allegedly stirred ethnic hatred. [link to www.themalaysianinsider.com]
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[link to lenta.ru]

From a Russian translator

"A bit edited Google Translate:
Dear readers!
Today, on March 12 , the owner of "Afisha - Rambler - SUP" Alexander Mamut fired chief editor of "Lenta.ru" Galina Timchenko. Newly appointed editor is Alexei Goreslavskii - deputy director general for external communications.

Unfortunately, it is not a routine castling, so it requires some explanation. We believe that this appointment is a direct pressure on the editorial staff of "Lenta.ru". Dismissal of an independent chief and appointment of a controlled person, including directly controlled from the Kremlin offices - is a violation of the law on the media talking about the inadmissibility of censorship.

Over the past couple of years the space of free journalism in Russia has decreased dramatically. Some media outlets are directly controlled from the Kremlin, others - through curators, and others - by editors who fear about their jobs. Some media outlets were closed, others will be closed in the coming months. The problem is not that we have nowhere to run. The problem is that you seem to have nothing more to read.

We certainly expected that they would come for us.
We believe that this will not last forever. In any case, you, dear readers, should know about it.
We hope to see you soon.
Your dear editorial staff.

Goreslavskij is a well-known person, he is a former editor of vz.ru, an absolutely terrible Kremlin shithole."
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Allow Ukraine to fight for their land. If they can not hold positions, allow any other force who will fight against russian slavery to come to their aide. Poles, Baltics, Turkey...STOP THE KILLERS OF FREEDOM!! They killed you by the millions in WW2!
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"They killed you by millions in WW2" Who are "THEY"? Do you refer for the Soviet soldiers who liberated the world from the Nazi? They were both Ukrainians and Russians, both Kazakh and Tatar.
I don't mind Ukraine to be peaceful and united, as it were during past time BEFORE the Orange revolution. The European double standard sucks and f. So what, you propose the Turks to come in Europe to settle the things out, only because they are "NATO"? Did you forget the Iraqi war how the turks didnt give a damn shill for US forces there?
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If it was not for the Soviet Union sacrifice, now you Yanks would have studied German and bow before the Nazi ruler of the world, descendant of Hitler. You are as desperately outdated today as you were at that time! Why didn't you start the Western front 2 years earlier? More soviet soldiers to be killed 5:1 Germans and not you! F. your double standard, imperialists!
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Your ass comrade! Go worship a statue of Joseph Ass Stalin!!! In hindsight....WW2 should not have ended at Berlin...The west should have pushed your maniacle killer ass back to the russian border and beyond. Now eastern europe is paying the price for the western mistake. YOU ARE KILLERS...OF YOUR OWN PEOPLE. KILLERS OF PEOPLE YOU BORDER. AND KILLERS OF ANYONE WHO SPEAKS AGAINST YOUR TRUE COMMUNIST HEART!
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Edit that the statement at the bottom is from the Russian translator, not from the site.
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horry shet really,..What was it called?
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Lenta.ru
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Darn, they got Lenta? No wonder it pulled down all pro-Crimean and pro-Ukrainian news and banned comments :( It was the final sane source of information in this country, who's slowing becoming crazier and more despotic :(
 Quoting: Snuffielover


I tried the google translate tool on Lenta.

For some reasons I don't think I will get the real meaning of the news...

Here is one of the headlines:
"In Irkutsk, was arrested more than a thousand toilets"
 Quoting: ExploringTheTruth


The toilets are a very dangerous breed of criminals here! They mostly loiter and do environment damage :D

But the story was that the toilets wer arrested, because their owner was in debt. So they will probably be sold off to pay part of that debt. I'm sure The US uses similar mechanics.

It haven't produced a single good Ukraine newspost. Comments are also closed. Nowadays it's so easy to get your webpage shut down for "instigating Terrorism" A simple shill has to post something stupid, (or sensitive) in the commnets and report it to the police.

Without trial any webpage can now be closed / denied access to. Good luck appealing that in our utterly corrupt courts, dancing after Mister Putin's tune. Personally I don't see much Freedom there. Already my liberal Internet provider has blocked at least five webpages in that fashion :(

That's what mass media did in Norway under the German occupation. They ether closed their doors, had a Nazi director appointed to them, or engaged in strict self-censorship to avoid reprisal from the Quisling Government. Looks like history is repeating itself.

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If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Drills? When was last time all of Moscow had a drill, much less the whole country? And you'd have to stock the locations for the entire population.
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Uh……. If they don’t have any drills, and the people have never practiced getting to those bunkers, and they don’t constantly keep them stocked with non perishable provisions in case the bunkers are ever used for their intended use with little to no warning……

Then why waste the time building them in the first place? All you would be doing is keeping them alive (the ones that are lucky enough to get there before the bombs go off) long enough to starve to death.

And people are saying that them building the bunkers shows that they care for their citizens. If that is the way they help the citizens prepare, I fail to see how they care for their citizens.

It can’t be both ways.

They either have a functional bunker system that the people know how to use, and have practiced evacuating to.

Or they don’t have a functional bunker system.

If they don’t have a functional bunker system, but they built them anyway, then I have to really ask WHY?

For them to even be used, you would have to have many days pre-warning to provision the bunkers, and get people into them before the strike happens. That would mean without a doubt, the only way they would be usable at all, is if Russia intended to do the first strike.

Any way you look at it, the bunker system lends to the idea that they are going to launch a first strike. That is the only way they would be useful. Prestocked, or not.
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You obviously don't know the facts about stocking or drills or for which types of scenarios they were designed and are maintained and hence your logic is flawed.

What seems much more first-strike oriented is the missile defense systems that US and NATO are working on. Because they are designed to defend a retaliotory strike rather than a first strike. Which might actually also explain why the West does *not* need the shelters, using your logic.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Allow Ukraine to fight for their land. If they can not hold positions, allow any other force who will fight against russian slavery to come to their aide. Poles, Baltics, Turkey...STOP THE KILLERS OF FREEDOM!! They killed you by the millions in WW2!
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"They killed you by millions in WW2" Who are "THEY"? Do you refer for the Soviet soldiers who liberated the world from the Nazi? They were both Ukrainians and Russians, both Kazakh and Tatar.
I don't mind Ukraine to be peaceful and united, as it were during past time BEFORE the Orange revolution. The European double standard sucks and f. So what, you propose the Turks to come in Europe to settle the things out, only because they are "NATO"? Did you forget the Iraqi war how the turks didnt give a damn shill for US forces there?
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You modern Nazi just undermined the blood of the soviet people who made the planet possible to survive until this very day. Your Hitler, what was he doing under Moscow? Russia will not allow to be sneak attacked again. She will win, because the scripture says so! Unfortunately, at the end times the then people of Gog will turn against God and will lose 5 in 6 will die, the others will repent. Not until then. It is meant a Christian Russia to win until then all wars on earth. Sorry for her adversaries, they are doomed to fail, as Hitler and Napoleon.






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