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missanthropic55
User ID: 56959177 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 That would be fantastic news, but unfortunately, this is far from being over. Don't be fooled..... It's just a tiny calm before a very ugly storm. I sadly agree with your assessment. I don't see it. If Maidan disbands in Kiev and protestors leave buildings in the east that will be huge. I expect most in the east and west will keep their arms but that will wind up being ignored. Looks like Kiev can survive if this works. I don't see Russia going in from a standing start after things wind down even if they complain about what they see happening in Ukraine. We will never know what unwritten commitments were made but I assume Ukraine joining NATO is probably off the table. As long as some semblance of moderation emerges from Kiev they should be safe unless the unwritten agreements are broken. No NATO and guaranteed safety of Russians in Ukraine....all important to Russia. Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism |
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missanthropic55
User ID: 56959177 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 yes was following Syria closely, only real resistance remains in Aleppo because of Turkey's constant inflow of jihadists and overall logistics support. Convinced it was all about the planned Shia pipeline, but that's for another thread :) didn't know about that but yeah sounds plausible! Anyway they must be running low on retards Gotta Google shia pipeline :) Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56977439 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: NotZuckerberg yes was following Syria closely, only real resistance remains in Aleppo because of Turkey's constant inflow of jihadists and overall logistics support. Convinced it was all about the planned Shia pipeline, but that's for another thread :) didn't know about that but yeah sounds plausible! Anyway they must be running low on retards Gotta Google shia pipeline :) haha pumping it up the shitter. Love it. |
Doom Master
User ID: 45874141 United States 04/17/2014 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Off-ramps and political resolutions are for leaders who find themselves in sticky situations that escalated above and beyond what their initial provocations intended. The vast majority of us see through Putin's charades. We recognize that he is playing games with the west. Leading them, comically, on with false promises. The Russian president, by all appearances and recent actions, does not want a "peaceful resolution" unless it gets him what he wants; Eastern/Southern Ukraine, AKA, New Russia. It is for these reasons and more that my analysis of events tells me that this is far from over. This will ebb and flow, like the tides, but once provocations by Ukrainian forces lead to deaths and threats to Russian sympathizers; real or perceived or contrived, "DOOM" will again be realized. To the "doom off" crowd, it ain't over til the Babushka sings, she ain't even warmed up yet. Ever closer to darkness we ride relentless hell hounds by our side.... ....I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hellfire was following close behind him...... Just keeping the score..... |
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missanthropic55
User ID: 56959177 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 As I listen to the repeated comments from Obama, Kerry, Rasmussen et al, repeatedly looking "for a way out", a "resolution", a "deescalation", "off-ramps" and "political solutions" to this ongoing "crisis" I think to myself why do these fools keep deluding themselves. Quoting: Doom Master Off-ramps and political resolutions are for leaders who find themselves in sticky situations that escalated above and beyond what their initial provocations intended. The vast majority of us see through Putin's charades. We recognize that he is playing games with the west. Leading them, comically, on with false promises. The Russian president, by all appearances and recent actions, does not want a "peaceful resolution" unless it gets him what he wants; Eastern/Southern Ukraine, AKA, New Russia. It is for these reasons and more that my analysis of events tells me that this is far from over. This will ebb and flow, like the tides, but once provocations by Ukrainian forces lead to deaths and threats to Russian sympathizers; real or perceived or contrived, "DOOM" will again be realized. To the "doom off" crowd, it ain't over til the Babushka sings, she ain't even warmed up yet. Living up to your name lol, I don't think they're " deluding themselves"..I think they're trying to delude us :) Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism |
missanthropic55
User ID: 56959177 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 As I listen to the repeated comments from Obama, Kerry, Rasmussen et al, repeatedly looking "for a way out", a "resolution", a "deescalation", "off-ramps" and "political solutions" to this ongoing "crisis" I think to myself why do these fools keep deluding themselves. Quoting: Doom Master Off-ramps and political resolutions are for leaders who find themselves in sticky situations that escalated above and beyond what their initial provocations intended. The vast majority of us see through Putin's charades. We recognize that he is playing games with the west. Leading them, comically, on with false promises. The Russian president, by all appearances and recent actions, does not want a "peaceful resolution" unless it gets him what he wants; Eastern/Southern Ukraine, AKA, New Russia. It is for these reasons and more that my analysis of events tells me that this is far from over. This will ebb and flow, like the tides, but once provocations by Ukrainian forces lead to deaths and threats to Russian sympathizers; real or perceived or contrived, "DOOM" will again be realized. To the "doom off" crowd, it ain't over til the Babushka sings, she ain't even warmed up yet. I think what will happen is that the ethnic despise will keep rising in Ukraine, and there can be no political solution. The two sides hate each other way too much to be able to live together under one banner. Putin knows that but has to show it to west first, that even when Russia cooperates, they can't control the will of the people. U may be right but was there problems between them before the coup? Last Edited by missanthropic55 on 04/17/2014 07:28 PM Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39365109 United States 04/17/2014 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 As I listen to the repeated comments from Obama, Kerry, Rasmussen et al, repeatedly looking "for a way out", a "resolution", a "deescalation", "off-ramps" and "political solutions" to this ongoing "crisis" I think to myself why do these fools keep deluding themselves. Quoting: Doom Master Off-ramps and political resolutions are for leaders who find themselves in sticky situations that escalated above and beyond what their initial provocations intended. The vast majority of us see through Putin's charades. We recognize that he is playing games with the west. Leading them, comically, on with false promises. The Russian president, by all appearances and recent actions, does not want a "peaceful resolution" unless it gets him what he wants; Eastern/Southern Ukraine, AKA, New Russia. It is for these reasons and more that my analysis of events tells me that this is far from over. This will ebb and flow, like the tides, but once provocations by Ukrainian forces lead to deaths and threats to Russian sympathizers; real or perceived or contrived, "DOOM" will again be realized. To the "doom off" crowd, it ain't over til the Babushka sings, she ain't even warmed up yet. Living up to your name lol, I don't think they're " deluding themselves"..I think they're trying to delude us :) It is total wait and see for me. When the agreement was first announced it did not seem serious. That changes if Maidan shuts down and people leave buildings in the east. It is as simple as that. If everyone stays put then there is still trouble. |
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Forum Administrator User ID: 5725534 United States 04/17/2014 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Yup... :firsttoblink: To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
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User ID: 56763948 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @lennutrajektoor 1h As of 10PM Apr 17 in #Kramatorsk 2 terrorists dead, 5 taken hostage. What exactly happens is unclear. “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark |
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User ID: 56763948 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @EuromaidanPR 2m Gunmen seized employee of the center of Radio Frequencies in #Kramatorsk “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark |
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User ID: 56763948 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @ISNJH 3m Has there been any confirmation of the TV station being taken back in #Kramatorsk by Ukr forces? “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark |
missanthropic55
User ID: 56959177 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @lennutrajektoor 1h Quoting: djdandew1 As of 10PM Apr 17 in #Kramatorsk 2 terrorists dead, 5 taken hostage. What exactly happens is unclear. Think this is last ditch attempt to take out as many as they can.... So much for amnesty re todays agreement. Let's see if things scaled back tomorrow...on both sides Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism |
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User ID: 56763948 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @ISNJH 3m Quoting: djdandew1 Has there been any confirmation of the TV station being taken back in #Kramatorsk by Ukr forces? @lennutrajektoor 1h In #Kramatorsk after seizng TV station they installed a military communication antenna on TV tower. Most probably for secure raido channel. “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark |
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User ID: 56763948 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @lennutrajektoor 1h Quoting: djdandew1 As of 10PM Apr 17 in #Kramatorsk 2 terrorists dead, 5 taken hostage. What exactly happens is unclear. Which terrorists? Anti or pro coup? pro russian “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark |
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User ID: 21491186 United States 04/17/2014 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 John and Ken on KF iRadio Los Angeles Did a story on the Ukraine crisis for the first time. I think that increasing stories in the mainstream media indicates the administration is about to act in someway and they want to get the issue into the consciousness of the public. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1563186 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @lennutrajektoor 1h Quoting: djdandew1 As of 10PM Apr 17 in #Kramatorsk 2 terrorists dead, 5 taken hostage. What exactly happens is unclear. Which terrorists? Anti or pro coup? Haven't u been list ening to sky news? Anti coup! :) John and Ken on KF iRadio Los Angeles Quoting: Ontheverge Did a story on the Ukraine crisis for the first time. I think that increasing stories in the mainstream media indicates the administration is about to act in someway and they want to get the issue into the consciousness of the public. I do not watch TV. I did put the news channels on for 10 minutes a couple of days ago however, just out of curiosity if they were covering Ukraine. They all were at that time. This was the beginning of anti terror ops, they were probably expecting huge resistance from the pro Russians and hoping to broadcast that. The Russians let them down again. |
djdandew1
User ID: 56763948 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @RT_com 11s British PM promised to provide an extra $1.7 million for OSCE's special monitoring mission in Ukraine “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark |
missanthropic55
User ID: 56959177 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @lennutrajektoor 1h Quoting: djdandew1 As of 10PM Apr 17 in #Kramatorsk 2 terrorists dead, 5 taken hostage. What exactly happens is unclear. Which terrorists? Anti or pro coup? Haven't u been list ening to sky news? Anti coup! :) John and Ken on KF iRadio Los Angeles Quoting: Ontheverge Did a story on the Ukraine crisis for the first time. I think that increasing stories in the mainstream media indicates the administration is about to act in someway and they want to get the issue into the consciousness of the public. I do not watch TV. I did put the news channels on for 10 minutes a couple of days ago however, just out of curiosity if they were covering Ukraine. They all were at that time. This was the beginning of anti terror ops, they were probably expecting huge resistance from the pro Russians and hoping to broadcast that. The Russians let them down again. Pro russians were named terrorists by kiev....doesn't make it true Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism |
djdandew1
User ID: 56763948 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @NATOSource 3s Obama & Cameron: US+Europe "prepared 2 take further measures if de-escalation does not occur in short order" Ukraine “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark |