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No way Putin allows Moldova and Romania to unit and allow the EU to put yet another feather in the EUs cap. It may be economically prudent, but Putin has clearly shown in the last 6 months that his political agenda trumps any sound economic policy. This is plainly evident.
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Reunification of Moldova and Romania is just a question of time. A reasonable estimate is 3-5 years, but it can happen sooner. I simply don't see why this can't happen and what can Putin, Ban Ki Moon, or Merkel do about it.
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#BREAKINGNEWS (PRO-)#RUSSIAN MILITANTS SHOOT DOWN UKRAINIAN AIR FORCE JET OVER #SEVERODONETSK, LUHANSK OBLAST, CAPTURE PILOT.



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SCORE!
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I swear to fuck, every thread on this fucken site is infested with pro NWO/Zionist shills.....Its fucken deppressing to see easily infuenced sheep lapping up every MSM word as if its gospel and they,re somehow telling the truth this time.

Putin has to send in airstrikes now, but then something tells me he is waiting until the Zionists make their move on Palestine and or Syria....

BUT PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED....
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You talk about shills, then urge an Putin to launch airstrikes?

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RT @RT_com · 55 seg

Russian Deputy PM pledges support to Moldova’s breakaway region [link to on.rt.com]


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clappa
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It's beginning to unravel for Putin now, isn't it.

Rosneft ready to sue Gazprom on export pipeline Economy.

The statement quotes Gazprom’s chief executive Alexei Miller as saying that the pipeline in question and gas supplies to China will only be based on Gazprom resources. In other words, Russian companies cannot get international financing to recapitalize (loans) and a severe cash flow problem persists.

Now Russian businesses are fighting one another for any revenue they can muster. [link to en.itar-tass.com]

Nice job Vladi, keep killing your economy.
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This is even better than Gazprom raising taxes and tariffs which will increase the gas bills of Russian Gazprom domestic customers. So Russian people will have higher gas bills so Gazprom can finance it's 55 billion dollar pipeline to China. Bwahahahahahaha! What a great deal-maker Putin is.
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How can you watch yourself in the mirror?

Aggression started on Maidan and during Maidan in western part of UA where town halls were falling like dominos before violent Maidanists who were beating gov officials, forcing them on their knees and humiliating them in front of thousands. And then of course later Odessa masacre came. All that b4 easterns seriously armed themselfs.




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Goofy Thum
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You missed the worst videos. What happens when a sadistic government tried to control legal protestors by at first beating hell out of them. Shooting them in the face with buckshot or just dumping their tortured bodies in the snow. Many are still missing.
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Since day one, you brainwashed liar, maidanists attacked police officers. And dont't force me to lay evidence on the table!

slaphim
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The first protestors were beaten up early one morning by militia who had not been provoked.
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 3 s

#BREAKINGCONFIRMATION RUSSIAN INVADERS BROUGHT A SA-13 GOPHER TO #LUHANSK OBLAST THIS MORNING.

The systems seems to be already active...


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Correct...here is the picture of it: [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]

Here is the video:
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zerohedge ‏@zerohedge · 6 min. 
RUSSIA SAYS UKRAINE MAY HAVE USED UNKNOWN CHEMICAL IN BOMBING:BBG
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


As anti-Kiev as I am, I don't think that chemical weapons are being used as weapons in East Ukraine. I know that WP has it's "legitimate" use (so they say) but I haven't heard any reports of people being affected by that, or by other possible chemical weapons, have they?

Saying that they have used them and then later having it proven that they haven't, well it makes it a kind of "straw man" to weaken the case for the prosecution.
 Quoting: henrykamens


Well nice trick,your not Anti kiev and your not doubting
the use of cws. People who are liars use the wildest cone to trick us ordinary people. The objective was to refute the use of cw by kiev. The tool was to say I am anti kiev and I dont belive in cws so my credibility is high. Well busted!! Where is your proof MR Kiev Supporter.
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I swear to fuck, every thread on this fucken site is infested with pro NWO/Zionist shills.....Its fucken deppressing to see easily infuenced sheep lapping up every MSM word as if its gospel and they,re somehow telling the truth this time.

Putin has to send in airstrikes now, but then something tells me he is waiting until the Zionists make their move on Palestine and or Syria....

BUT PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED....
 Quoting: firinne


You talk about shills, then urge an Putin to launch airstrikes?


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The gloves are off, the Zionists are pressing the world self destruct button....This is no time to fanny about!
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It would be very helpful if you could tell me where in the EU budget, or EU member-states budgets, I can find these 'fancy rebuild credits?'
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That's a question to be addressed to Brussels. It might surprise you, but Ukraine expects to get even more from E.U. than it got from Russia via various subsidies and preferences. 'You owe us because you need us'. That's probably the reason why Putin overlooked the whole EU-Ukraine situation. He could not imagine Europe would wants to have the financial burden of dealing with Ukraine. Europeans don't know what they stepped into.
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 23 seg

Ukr troops back in control of #Dolzhansky border crossing with #Russia. Just 2 more to go.


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Any proof?
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You missed the worst videos. What happens when a sadistic government tried to control legal protestors by at first beating hell out of them. Shooting them in the face with buckshot or just dumping their tortured bodies in the snow. Many are still missing.
 Quoting: Chippey


Since day one, you brainwashed liar, maidanists attacked police officers. And dont't force me to lay evidence on the table!

slaphim
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


And again I am giving a piece of advice:
Try to pull such protests in the USA or even the UK or Germany and tell me what happened.

By their fruits I am recognizing them... now they are in charge and you got the whole country ruined within months (lost land, gold reserves and so forth).

My question stays the same: is using white phosphorus against own population legal?
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I swear to fuck, every thread on this fucken site is infested with pro NWO/Zionist shills.....Its fucken deppressing to see easily infuenced sheep lapping up every MSM word as if its gospel and they,re somehow telling the truth this time.

Putin has to send in airstrikes now, but then something tells me he is waiting until the Zionists make their move on Palestine and or Syria....

BUT PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED....
 Quoting: firinne


clappa
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Another tank from Russia has been damaged and captured.

The more Chechans and other Russians that are captured, the more weapon systems from Russia that are captured, are all more evidence to be used for war crimes trials against Putin and his regime.
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The people of Donbass and Luhansk regions.....in their own words.

You wont get this on the ZBC..

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I swear to fuck, every thread on this fucken site is infested with pro NWO/Zionist shills.....Its fucken deppressing to see easily infuenced sheep lapping up every MSM word as if its gospel and they,re somehow telling the truth this time.
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OMG that is absolutely hysterical irony coming from YOU!!!
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zerohedge ‏@zerohedge · 6 min. 
RUSSIA SAYS UKRAINE MAY HAVE USED UNKNOWN CHEMICAL IN BOMBING:BBG
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


As anti-Kiev as I am, I don't think that chemical weapons are being used as weapons in East Ukraine. I know that WP has it's "legitimate" use (so they say) but I haven't heard any reports of people being affected by that, or by other possible chemical weapons, have they?

Saying that they have used them and then later having it proven that they haven't, well it makes it a kind of "straw man" to weaken the case for the prosecution.
 Quoting: henrykamens


Well nice trick,your not Anti kiev and your not doubting
the use of cws. People who are liars use the wildest cone to trick us ordinary people. The objective was to refute the use of cw by kiev. The tool was to say I am anti kiev and I dont belive in cws so my credibility is high. Well busted!! Where is your proof MR Kiev Supporter.

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It was sahakishvili himself trolling under Georgian flag lol
BTW Sahakashvili sold some lands of Georgia bordering with Turkey to Turkey.
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The first protestors were beaten up early one morning by militia who had not been provoked.
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It's sheer hypocrisy to raise the question of several beaten students vs. hundreds of people killed, thousands wounded, and cities destroyed. The new government appears to be much more repressive and bloody that the one they fought against. You don't believe they are the 'good guys' no matter what, and Yanuk was the 'bad guy' no matter what, do you?
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10 minutes of destruction and carnage. Watch and see what brave Ukrainian army do.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

Apparently I must repeat this yet again:

International law requires that every army, including insurgents, separate itself from the civilian population.

Ordinarily, this means setting up camp outside urban areas.

If the army (or insurgents) genuinely believe that holding a city is a military necessity, the army must carefully evacuate all civilians. If the army (or insurgents) refuse or neglect to perform this evacuation, that army is fully responsible for any civilian deaths that occur.
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Since when did Kiev accept this is a war with two parties? In Kiev's opinion it's still an anti-terror operation, so all the responsibility to prevent civilian casualties lies on entirely on the Kiev government. If you call the other side 'terrorists', you don't expect them to provide corridors. But if they are not 'terrorists', then this should be legally proclaimed civil war, and then there is no more room to split it into 'good guys' and 'bad guys', just two sides.
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Well basically all east ukrainians are civilians some of them have just been forced to defend themselves with weapons. Of course there are people with hearts who have come to defend the people against Nazi agressors. So they are true heros.
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Another tank from Russia has been damaged and captured.

The more Chechans and other Russians that are captured, the more weapon systems from Russia that are captured, are all more evidence to be used for war crimes trials against Putin and his regime.
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In ur wet dreams.
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Kiev Says The New ATO Is Working

ATO forces are taking light casualties & making large advances in new ATO offensive in eastern Ukraine

[link to www.interpretermag.com]
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Ukraine had its own putsch in Nov-Feb 2014
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59844012

Apparently I must explain yet again:

The Ukrainian president tried to skip the country and arrange an enemy invasion. In response, the Ukrainian parliament declared the president unable (i.e., unwilling) to carry out the duties of his office. This is exactly what the American Congress would have done if Barack Obama had flown to China and called for a nuclear attack on Los Angeles.

Aljazeera and Xinhua are certainly not friends of Western culture, but they reported the event correctly:


[link to www.aljazeera.com]
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The Ukrainian parliament, which decisively abandoned Yanukovich after loyalists defected, declared on Saturday the president constitutionally unable to carry out his duties and set an early election for May 25.
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[link to english.cri.cn]
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During its morning session, the parliament elected Alexandr Turchinov, an ally of Tymoshenko, as new speaker after his predecessor Volodymyr Rybak from the ruling Party of Regions resigned citing health reasons.
...
The biggest surprise for Ukrainians and the international community came when the parliament voted in the evening session to [remove] Yanukovych from his office.

Declaring Yanukovych constitutionally unable to carry out his duties, the newly elected speaker Turchinov set early elections for May 25.
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Well maybe there will someday be a REAL election in Kiev, but who knows what will happen.
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You missed the worst videos. What happens when a sadistic government tried to control legal protestors by at first beating hell out of them. Shooting them in the face with buckshot or just dumping their tortured bodies in the snow. Many are still missing.
 Quoting: Chippey


Since day one, you brainwashed liar, maidanists attacked police officers. And dont't force me to lay evidence on the table!

slaphim
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


And again I am giving a piece of advice:
Try to pull such protests in the USA or even the UK or Germany and tell me what happened.

By their fruits I am recognizing them... now they are in charge and you got the whole country ruined within months (lost land, gold reserves and so forth).

My question stays the same: is using white phosphorus against own population legal?
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Proof of white phosphorus or was it filmed in Israel?




from wikipeadia
Berkut police attack protesters on the night of 30 November
On the night of 30 November 2013 at 04:00, armed with batons, stun grenades, and tear gas, Berkut special police units attacked and dispersed all protesters from Maidan Nezalezhnosti while suppressing mobile phone communications.[31][32] The police attacked not only the protesters (most of whom didn't or failed to put up resistance) but also other civilians in the vicinity of Maidan Nezalezhnosti, when the Berkut forces chased unarmed people several hundreds of meters and continued to beat them with batons and feet.[33] Initially, 35 people were injured as a result of the militia raid etc etc
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No way Putin allows Moldova and Romania to unit and allow the EU to put yet another feather in the EUs cap. It may be economically prudent, but Putin has clearly shown in the last 6 months that his political agenda trumps any sound economic policy. This is plainly evident.
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Reunification of Moldova and Romania is just a question of time. A reasonable estimate is 3-5 years, but it can happen sooner. I simply don't see why this can't happen and what can Putin, Ban Ki Moon, or Merkel do about it.
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Putin can do a lot about it. He has 3,500 troops in Transnistria. Would a re-uni of Moldova and Romania be good for Russia or bad for Russia, either politically or economically? I think it would be bad for Putin politically. Time for Moscow and the FSB/GRU to begin regime destabilisation in Moldova.
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10 minutes of destruction and carnage. Watch and see what brave Ukrainian army do.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

Apparently I must repeat this yet again:

International law requires that every army, including insurgents, separate itself from the civilian population.

Ordinarily, this means setting up camp outside urban areas.

If the army (or insurgents) genuinely believe that holding a city is a military necessity, the army must carefully evacuate all civilians. If the army (or insurgents) refuse or neglect to perform this evacuation, that army is fully responsible for any civilian deaths that occur.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


Since when did Kiev accept this is a war with two parties? In Kiev's opinion it's still an anti-terror operation, so all the responsibility to prevent civilian casualties lies on entirely on the Kiev government. If you call the other side 'terrorists', you don't expect them to provide corridors. But if they are not 'terrorists', then this should be legally proclaimed civil war, and then there is no more room to split it into 'good guys' and 'bad guys', just two sides.
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Are you happy with the breakaway region of Moldova, Transnistria, being supported by Russia, just like they are doing with Novorussian separatists in Ukraine?
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Well CIA supports Kiev, CIA is not our choice. Russia is better.
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Kiev Says The New ATO Is Working

ATO forces are taking light casualties & making large advances in new ATO offensive in eastern Ukraine

[link to www.interpretermag.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43417771


Kiev's goal is to kill civilians before they get killed by terrorists. Also to destroy houses and factories before they get into the hands of the terrorists. That's the new type of preemptive 'war-on-terror'.
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The 25th Dnipropetrovsk Airborne Brigade captured Mykolaivka near Sloviansk today after well over a hundred terrorists were killed at their base there through combined arms attacks including heavy rockets and artillery use.

Several dead terrorists have been ID'd and all are Russian citizens. Their bodies are being kept as evidence of terrorism by the Putin regime for war crimes trial.
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Tymchuk: since ATO resumption Ukr troops took control of towns: Zakotnoe, Raygorodok, Reznikovka, Rye-Alexandrovka. #Mykolaivka to be next.
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It would be very helpful if you could tell me where in the EU budget, or EU member-states budgets, I can find these 'fancy rebuild credits?'
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That's a question to be addressed to Brussels. It might surprise you, but Ukraine expects to get even more from E.U. than it got from Russia via various subsidies and preferences. 'You owe us because you need us'. That's probably the reason why Putin overlooked the whole EU-Ukraine situation. He could not imagine Europe would wants to have the financial burden of dealing with Ukraine. Europeans don't know what they stepped into.
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Take a look back at the Russian economy this time last year. In fact, take a look back at the Russian economy pre-Crimea invasion. For me, Putin's Russia is by far worse off now.
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Reunification of Moldova and Romania is just a question of time. A reasonable estimate is 3-5 years, but it can happen sooner. I simply don't see why this can't happen and what can Putin, Ban Ki Moon, or Merkel do about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59844012

Putin can do a lot about it. He has 3,500 troops in Transnistria. Would a re-uni of Moldova and Romania be good for Russia or bad for Russia, either politically or economically? I think it would be bad for Putin politically. Time for Moscow and the FSB/GRU to begin regime destabilisation in Moldova.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47881019


The regime in Moldova is already disconnected from the population and the autumn elections will show that. You don't need any GRU elements to destabilise what is not stable. At the same time, I don't see how the EU vector can be reversed. What I believe, thought, is that Russia may try to boost the economy of Transnistria to show what Moldova is loosing by rejecting the Customs Union.





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