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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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People in civilian clothes in Mariupol had on yellow and blue armbands today and I've never seen that before, including people shooting and at least one who was killed.

here is one dead -

[link to twitter.com (secure)]


This was a military op in Mariupol. They don't need civilians.

Something strange is going on...
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Maybe it refers to the Ukranian national flag colors?
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Damn....
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UKRAINE FOREIGN MINISTRY - DEATH TOLL REACHES 20 IN MARIUPOL
 Quoting: Janey


hiding

This can only go one way!!
Escalation and civil war??

dynamite
 Quoting: Limpan


I'm sorry - WHAT??

Where have you been lately? The civil war has started long time ago!

Deliberately unnoticed by msm, and approved by 'authorities'

But once you see civilians attacked by military and tortured by other 'civilians' THAT ACTUALLY IS - Civil War!
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Yes the army killed one unarmed civilian, one got hit from stray bullet. But looks at THOSE "civilians". Don't say Ukrainian army did a good job today but you have to watch the facts on the ground, and the fact is, it was pure chaos with many armed men in civilian clothes or uniforms:

[link to img.24liveblog.com]
[link to img.24liveblog.com]
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Why would any Ukrainians want to side with the russians after 1932-33?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56605273


Lazar Kaganovich, who organized the Holodomor, was not Russian, neither his subordinates were. Kchrustchew, who participated in mass murdering the Ukraineans was not Russian, too. His letter is preserved in the archives, where he asks Stalin for a permission to shoot 17000 Ukraineans daily, because previously allocated quota (7000) was too little for him. I presume you know, what was the nationality of Nikita Khrustchew.
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Ethnicity?
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Yes, ethnicity is what I thouth of. Sorry.
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[link to www.rferl.org]


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Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin has taken part in ceremonies in Moldova's breakaway region of Transdniestr marking the end of World War II.

Rogozin, the Russian president's special representative for Transdniestr, said in Tiraspol May 9 Russia would do everything possible to guarantee the security of the self-declared republic.

He suggested that the government in Kyiv posed a danger to Transdniestr, which is between Ukaine and Moldova.
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Junta has finally gone mad, May 9 people shot of the armored cars .. A photo on the police department, which controlled the People's Republic of Donetsk .. lost about five policemen to be specified, shot by kiev terrorists for siding with the people.... Mariupol.


[link to cs617129.vk.me]
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No gone mad... They have backing of the CIA now....damned
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Pro-Russian troops are heading to Mariupol from Slavyansk now
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Yes the army killed one unarmed civilian, one got hit from stray bullet. But looks at THOSE "civilians". Don't say Ukrainian army did a good job today but you have to watch the facts on the ground, and the fact is, it was pure chaos with many armed men in civilian clothes or uniforms:

[link to img.24liveblog.com]
[link to img.24liveblog.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57879200


Shhhhh...

They're innocent civilians.
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Hromadske TV reported that a column of 10 BTRs under Ukrainian flags departed from some military unit and moves toward center of Kiev.
Unconfirmed!

 Quoting: Anti-Banderist
hearing that too from a reporter on the ground, although no-one has any idea why. Kiev are currently expecting trouble there so may be linked to that
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We can hope that this is the trouble they are expecting!
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Shaun Walker ‏@shaunwalker7 · 4 min
A real mess in Mariupol, seen 2 dead bodies outside police station, assume many more. Emotions high, trying to piece together what happened

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NATO chief: Putin's Crimea visit 'inappropriate'

Asked about Putin's first visit to Crimea since the region became part of Russia, Fogh Rasmussen noted that NATO doesn't recognize the annexation. "We still consider Crimea as Ukrainian territory and from my knowledge the Ukrainian authorities haven't invited Putin to visit Crimea so from that point of view his visit to Crimea is inappropriate," he said.

[link to bigstory.ap.org]
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cruise wacko Rasamusment
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no other way to explain the green...
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funny how you complain a lot but I've never seen you contribute any news
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there's plenty of yours at RT. I don't need to see one side reposted here ad nauseum..
 Quoting: Tpotleoz

No news over Ukraine in Australia, that you could share?
Don't tell you down under are concerned about shark attacks only drevil
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Fuck all down under...
Eat the Reds
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NATO chief: Putin's Crimea visit 'inappropriate'
Asked about Putin's first visit to Crimea since the region became part of Russia, Fogh Rasmussen noted that NATO doesn't recognize the annexation. "We still consider Crimea as Ukrainian territory and from my knowledge the Ukrainian authorities haven't invited Putin to visit Crimea so from that point of view his visit to Crimea is inappropriate," he said.
[link to bigstory.ap.org]
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But did he ask the people of Crimea how they feel about the visit?
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People in civilian clothes in Mariupol had on yellow and blue armbands today and I've never seen that before, including people shooting and at least one who was killed.

here is one dead -

[link to twitter.com (secure)]


This was a military op in Mariupol. They don't need civilians.

Something strange is going on...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31030480


Maybe it refers to the Ukranian national flag colors?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57878826


Yes of course thats what its supposed to mean - but in all the vids and pics of Ukr military conducting the ATO in the east, either before today or today, there was no civilian clothed people working with them. Thats my point. Where did these guys in civilian clothes with yellow armbands and armed with guns in the middle of a military op come from?
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Tamer Yazar ‏@tameryazar 1m
Interior Minister Arsen Avakov : 21 dead in #Mariupol after clashes between police and separatists on Victory Day ! #Ukraine #Kiev #Crimea


Charles Shoebridge ‏@ShoebridgeC 1m
No comment from US EU, as even BBC reports #Ukraine now using tanks against #Mariupol, with tens of protesters killed [link to m.bbc.co.uk] …
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Interfax:

ONE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER DIES, FIVE INJURED DURING FORCEFUL OPERATION IN MARIUPOL, LOSSES IN ARMED FORCES ARE BEING SPECIFIED - UKRAINIAN INTERIOR MINISTER

AROUND 20 MILITIA MEMBERS KILLED, FOUR CAPTURED IN MARIUPOL - UKRAINIAN INTERIOR MINISTER
 Quoting: Newshunter


Notice that in all this shooting no civilians ever seem to die. The only civilian I seem to remember Kiev reporting was that woman killed by a sniper. Other than Odessa I can't think of any others. Standard war propaganda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24922071


Standard yes.

Are the militia wearing uniforms or are they dressed as civilians? That seems to be standard practice in conflict now too.

1dunno1
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It is not always obvious in a conflict such as this but a blanket policy of calling all killed "militants", while seemingly good PR actually has the effect of encouraging indiscriminant killing by the Kiev forces. The more killed the more that it appears they are "winning" a war of attrition. Since it is done without any standards whatsoever it has no real credibility and merely serves to harden resentments. Think for a minute about the impact of those claims on those in the east who actually know who is who when it comes to militants and civilians. The Kiev forces seem at best undisciplined and this only compounds the problem. Although it is standard on the ground this sort of thing is self-defeating if Kiev wants to succeed long term. The important audience is on the ground in Ukraine, not the international audience in the west.
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RT ‏@shaunwalker7: heavy weapons used on police building which is charred wreck. Locals say army attacked police for siding w- separatists, Kiev says otherwise

RT @shaunwalker7: Tank with local youth speeds past flying Donetsk Republic flag. Today in Mariupol feels more like civil war than any day so far
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[link to theaviationist.com]


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A SAS Boeing 737 had to change its course at the last moment not to collide with a Russian Il-20 off Malmö, Sweden.

Even if the news was only recently made public, a SAS flight SK 681, a Boeing 737 with 132 people on board from Kastrup – Copenhagen to Rome had to change course in order to avoid colliding into an unidentified plane, about 50 miles to the southwest of Malmö.

The two planes passed 90 feet apart.

The incident occurred on Mar. 3 in international waters.
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WTF!! These are just regular citizens who are getting shot for no reason but they are yelling. What the hell happened to free speech? Why can't people see that this is being escalated by the west? Putin speaks, tries to find a peaceful solution to this crisis, and the west keeps further trying to exacerbate it. I don't see anything peaceful coming out of Kiev, and we all know full well where their orders are coming from. We need peace folks! And all of us tearing each other apart isn't achieving that. So sad.
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and I would not be surprised, if this whole mess was orchestrated by the same families which orchetrated the holodomor.
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bingo
Eat the Reds
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Damn....
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siren2siren2siren2
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they are free people and citizens of the city thus they can go wherever they want. nobody have the right to kill them. capiche?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57841437


So go now and try to steal some APC in your dear Russia , you wont live to tell the story.
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are you insane? nobody in this video is trying to steal an APC. don't derail the topic or i will call you a shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57877866

Obviously these are normal people who are just screaming get the fuck out of our city, and they get shot for talking and yelling. No one in the video went to attack the soldiers. This is a typical result of the Ukraine government giving guns to untrained scum bags. End result is the people will revolt.
 Quoting: Shuracane
"our city"? its ukrainian soldiers in ukrainian sovereign territory what are you on about?if they get fired on by reprobates then they have a right to defend and also defend the soveriegnty of thier own city and own country get a grip.its not like the russians doing a crimea land grab they are maintaining order if they dot like it then they can fook off to their beloved russian motherland
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Dmitry Steshin @ kp_steshin 7 min. Mariupol trouble is that a month ago the local militia has told us: "we do not want to arm themselves, do not want to fight, we want all under the law."
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RT ‏@shaunwalker7: heavy weapons used on police building which is charred wreck. Locals say army attacked police for siding w- separatists, Kiev says otherwise

RT @shaunwalker7: Tank with local youth speeds past flying Donetsk Republic flag. Today in Mariupol feels more like civil war than any day so far
 Quoting: Newshunter


You can bet the Mariupol local militia will no longer be turning down opportunities to arm themselves now.

Kiev is determined that there shall be a major escalation of hostilities.
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funny how most of the pro kiev are ACs? and most of the people trying to put forth breaking news are paid members hmmm
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Pro Kiev (foxy way af saying "pro-Ukraine) are ACs because they were banned, me included. Notice that news from paid members are mostly from Russian sources?
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Miners of Donbas (workers union) announce they are willing to take up arms and wage war against terrorists, said Aleksandr Gurov, who was among a group of miners and deputies taken hostage by separatists. When asked whether the miners were willing to start a partisan movement he said "Yes, a partisan movement if there is no other solution."

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and I would not be surprised, if this whole mess was orchestrated by the same families which orchetrated the holodomor.
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bingo
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Quite possibly.
And to name them, the Rothschilds.
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kiev democracy enforcer got shot here I think not sure though



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Don't try and change the wording around to hide your Pro-Russian shill stance. Either post news without such snide comments and remarks or get reported. Its that simple.
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What is Putin waiting for?
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funny how most of the pro kiev are ACs? and most of the people trying to put forth breaking news are paid members hmmm
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Pro Kiev (foxy way af saying "pro-Ukraine) are ACs because they were banned, me included. Notice that news from paid members are mostly from Russian sources?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57875643


pro ukraine would have been not to torch the last election with molotov coctails in february and not to let nuland dictate who they want as interm president. but to have polled and campaigned for thier representitive in a peaceful manner to throw gas on another human being and light a match is in no way pro ukraine, besides the ukraine is over it has been humpty dumptied and all the kings horses and all the kings men . the country will balkanize now

Last Edited by Desertwolf on 05/09/2014 10:18 AM
And here we are staring at each other through an electronic............ error goto ram

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