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Enrico Ivanov ‏@VonHenrick1 14 min
Breaking! CONFIRMED!
#Kalinovka, suburbs of #Debaltsevo, has been liberated by NAF! Fightings on the E. and S. outskirts are intensifying!

Enrico Ivanov ‏@VonHenrick1 4 min.
BOOM! UNCONFIRMED
Reports say that Semenchenko, Donbas battalion leader, has been gravely injured or killed in a NAF ambush near #Uglegorsk!

 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Russian troops were crached at Uglegorsk. According to first reports final losses will be huge:

[link to www.translate.ru]

Kremlin already took care how to help families of terrorussian soldiers and sent other 7 mobile crematoriums:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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For Kremlinbots their references to bullshits from LifeNews and Kremlinbots twitter's accounts are the only creadible sources

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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Pushilin: Negotiations will continue when Kiev stops shelling our cities
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Enrico Ivanov ‏@VonHenrick1 14 min
Breaking! CONFIRMED!
#Kalinovka, suburbs of #Debaltsevo, has been liberated by NAF! Fightings on the E. and S. outskirts are intensifying!

Enrico Ivanov ‏@VonHenrick1 4 min.
BOOM! UNCONFIRMED
Reports say that Semenchenko, Donbas battalion leader, has been gravely injured or killed in a NAF ambush near #Uglegorsk!

 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Russian troops were crached at Uglegorsk. According to first reports final losses will be huge:

[link to www.translate.ru]

Kremlin already took care how to help families of terrorussian soldiers and sent other 7 mobile crematoriums:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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0 photos
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1 link to a shiatty ukronazi site

bitchesbetrippin
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For Kremlinbots their references to bullshits from LifeNews and Kremlinbots twitter's accounts are the only creadible sources

rofl5
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Stay bamboozled at your own peril Ukie.
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So, who is guarding Kiev? Alpha unit? National Guard? Mercs?
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just the police and a couple of special units for presidential palace and Rada, all other operative units are on the front in Donbass, if rebels get to Kiev they will conquer it in a day or two
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Oh, those Kremlinbots ! "Rebels" may hope only to become a food for fishes in Dnieper.

1rof1
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Why don´t you go fighting, you hero of the ukraine?
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hmm

that can only mean one thing. she's an ukrainian woman! be nice maybe she'll log in and stay around clinton no
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Thats it, if CNN are now posting this, they its been decide to show the ukies for what they are. The us will side with the rebels.

Id hate to be a us merc in ukrain right now. Tide is turning and when it do those ukies will tear them limb from limb.
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That's what I was thinking too. Bad times for Ukraine if even CNN begins to tell truth.
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It gets better.

US Treasury has revised sanctions regime in Russia’s Crimea, allowing residents of the peninsula to operate US bank accounts. Crimeans will also be able to send and receive non-commercial personal money transfers.
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Something tells me that if the West decides to abandon the monster they created in Kiev, that the monster will bite back. Putin knows this, which is why he has not yet slayed the monster.
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Ukraine's Parliament member Semenchenko: Ukrainian counter offensive started in Debaltseve bridgehead. Pray for our boys

[link to www.ukrinform.ua]
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?????

Sounds like a breakout, not a "Counter-offensive".

Ukie propaganda will probably proclaim it as "Advancing to the rear for Glorious Victory!!"
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Ukraine's Parliament member Semenchenko: Ukrainian counter offensive started in Debaltseve bridgehead. Pray for our boys

[link to www.ukrinform.ua]
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?????

Sounds like a breakout, not a "Counter-offensive".

Ukie propaganda will probably proclaim it as "Advancing to the rear for Glorious Victory!!"
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or, "We are re-deploying to a strategic location" Kiev.
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Pro Russians reported over a week ago Debaltseve pocket closed..still not happened yet..just saying
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It is closed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67546844


No.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67549694


Yes it is, because that's why it's called a caldron,

and no it's not, because instead of just putting an end to 8000/10000 Ukie lifes the Seperatists leave them a corridor option of "fukk off" on the main road, which is under DPR militia control...

So you can stop this retarded yes-no yes-no game like 4 year olds, thanks!
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Maybe it is not but I read this morning that the last bridge into there was blown up by militias.
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im trying to get the greek color revolution meme going but nobody is helping

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Reports that #DNR militia completely surrounded by Kiev troops in #Debaltseve [link to rusvesna.su]

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Girkin lies just like Ukies.

Igor Strelkov: I Started War in Eastern Ukraine

Former Russian separatist leader Igor 'Strelkov' Girkin has claimed "personal responsibility" for starting the deadly conflict in eastern Ukraine, in an interview with imperialist rightwing newspaper Zavtra.

Strelkov, who declared himself Minister of Defence of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic said that he "was the one who pulled the trigger of war".

"If our unit had not crossed the border, everything would've come to an end, like in Kharkiv [Ukrainian city], like in Odessa," he said, in a translation by the Moscow Times.

"There would have been several dozen killed, burned, detained. And that would have been the end of it. But the flywheel of the war, which is continuing to this day, was spun by our unit. We mixed up all the cards on the table." [link to www.ibtimes.co.uk]
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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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BBC Journalists Attacked Investigating Servicemen Deaths in Russia
BBC Says Staff Badly Beaten, Camera Destroyed During Assault in Astrakhan [link to www.wsj.com]

MOSCOW—The British Broadcasting Corp. said unidentified men attacked a team of its journalists and destroyed their camera as it was investigating reports of Russian servicemen being killed in Ukraine.

The public-funded broadcaster said its staff were badly beaten by at least three assailants in the southern Russian city of Astrakhan on Tuesday. After four hours of questioning at a local police station afterward, the journalists discovered that their recording equipment, which had been in their vehicle at the police station, had been electronically wiped, the BBC said in a statement.

"The attack on our staff, and the destruction of their equipment and recordings, were clearly part of a coordinated attempt to stop accredited news journalists reporting a legitimate news story," the BBC said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64650910


Behind paywall and no date on it. Isn't this an old article?

They should have done like that jailed "Lady" with Russian journos ... ???
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Now use it! chuckle

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Reports that #DNR militia completely surrounded by Kiev troops in #Debaltseve [link to rusvesna.su]

alien03
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other way around...translator messes things up sometimes
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just the police and a couple of special units for presidential palace and Rada, all other operative units are on the front in Donbass, if rebels get to Kiev they will conquer it in a day or two
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Oh, those Kremlinbots ! "Rebels" may hope only to become a food for fishes in Dnieper.

1rof1
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Why don´t you go fighting, you hero of the ukraine?
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hmm

that can only mean one thing. she's an ukrainian woman! be nice maybe she'll log in and stay around clinton no
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Indeed.
It must be a woman, but i heard those ukrainian ones are more hairy than normal, so...
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Oh, those Kremlinbots ! "Rebels" may hope only to become a food for fishes in Dnieper.

1rof1
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Why don´t you go fighting, you hero of the ukraine?
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hmm

that can only mean one thing. she's an ukrainian woman! be nice maybe she'll log in and stay around clinton no
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Indeed.
It must be a woman, but i heard those ukrainian ones are more hairy than normal, so...
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nocomment
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Oh, those Kremlinbots ! "Rebels" may hope only to become a food for fishes in Dnieper.

1rof1
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Why don´t you go fighting, you hero of the ukraine?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67558952


hmm

that can only mean one thing. she's an ukrainian woman! be nice maybe she'll log in and stay around clinton no
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Indeed.
It must be a woman, but i heard those ukrainian ones are more hairy than normal, so...
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damned
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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obama is going to need putin's help soon.

netanyahu is ooming to washington soon and he's coming to do more than just give a speech. he's coming to take over.

he's coming to take control of the state department, the cia and the pentagon.
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Reportage about battles in the Debaltsevo/Donetsk area. Some unseen footages:


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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
____________________________________________________________​______________

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Try harder.
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BBC Journalists Attacked Investigating Servicemen Deaths in Russia
BBC Says Staff Badly Beaten, Camera Destroyed During Assault in Astrakhan [link to www.wsj.com]

MOSCOW—The British Broadcasting Corp. said unidentified men attacked a team of its journalists and destroyed their camera as it was investigating reports of Russian servicemen being killed in Ukraine.

The public-funded broadcaster said its staff were badly beaten by at least three assailants in the southern Russian city of Astrakhan on Tuesday. After four hours of questioning at a local police station afterward, the journalists discovered that their recording equipment, which had been in their vehicle at the police station, had been electronically wiped, the BBC said in a statement.

"The attack on our staff, and the destruction of their equipment and recordings, were clearly part of a coordinated attempt to stop accredited news journalists reporting a legitimate news story," the BBC said.
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Legitimate journalist?

cruise

You mean the very BBC that refuses to even acknowledge the thousands of civilian deaths in Ukraine at the hands of the Ukrainian army?

The very BBC that reports the lie that Russian troops have invaded Ukraine?

norespect
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As credible as Russia Today and Telegraph Agency of Soviet Socialist
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That's two weeks old news. Why do you pull that out now? Derailing the thread? Provoke?

Tunepafranat.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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streelkovs VK acc says pocket cloased.
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This Conflict is wanted.
No one of us will change that.
All we can do is prepare for day x.
Me personally thinks europe will be engaged in war before august 2015.
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Yes the current automat machinations are put in place, but here is the big error NATO and the USA are making... While they experience a tough time with their military draft in Ukraine itself.. They will NEVER ever be able to mobilze the amount of soldiers needed to actually put something together that even looks anything close to anything of a "serious military offense force" to be send to the "OSTFRONT"..

It's not gonna happen, simply because the Germans will not be made to pick up arms to march against Russia.. neither will the French!

The US isn't ever going to be able to win a war against Russia, not even if they would try going it all by themselves with some Baltic and Polish lunatics..

Not saying this war can't or wont spread also into EU, but... that really would be more due to collapse of central governance and the spread of local Anarchy thereafter, same is true for the USA. They won't have time to conquer Russia while trying to maintain stability within.
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The main goal is not to win against russia.
The main goal ist to avoid alliances between th EU and russia.
No matter who wins or looses.
If russia aproacher Rhein(the true NATO border towards teh east) 500k us troops will drop in in no time to block em from british and french bases.

No one wnats to take russia down.
What they want is to coantain and weaken russia.
Slowly, painfully and costly

YOu really think they giave a dime for people in europe dying as long as it serves their strategic cause?

Ermh.
NO!

This is all about containment and exploiting weak spots of both rhe EU and BRICS.

Nobody will change that.
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All you say is true... but that is why there will be no Russian troops in either Ukraine, Baltics or any other EU country. Which would leave the US and the UK army as only option to try march to Moscow themselves LOL.

If we look at it, there have been already a lot of pretty gnarly provocations to force Russia's hand, but all to no avail, so now they are stuck with MSM propaganda of how the Russians are cowards and how Putin is a traitor of the peoples in Donbass. But that's as "successful" their tactics get, derp!

In the meanwhile the EU honcho leadership is imploding, making room for pro-Russian politics in the long run. Sure, they try hard to play on peoples emotions, but I am rather impressed how little of a chance they have.

In the end all they could do is launch a false flag nuclear attack on themselves or launch a nuclear attack on Russia, both schemes would be doomed to fail.
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clappa
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Yes the current :automat: machinations are put in place, but here is the big error NATO and the USA are making... While they experience a tough time with their military draft in Ukraine itself.. They will NEVER ever be able to mobilze the amount of soldiers needed to actually put something together that even looks anything close to anything of a "serious military offense force" to be send to the "OSTFRONT"..

It's not gonna happen, simply because the Germans will not be made to pick up arms to march against Russia.. neither will the French!

The US isn't ever going to be able to win a war against Russia, not even if they would try going it all by themselves with some Baltic and Polish lunatics..

Not saying this war can't or wont spread also into EU, but... that really would be more due to collapse of central governance and the spread of local Anarchy thereafter, same is true for the USA. They won't have time to conquer Russia while trying to maintain stability within.
 Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK


The main goal is not to win against russia.
The main goal ist to avoid alliances between th EU and russia.
No matter who wins or looses.
If russia aproacher Rhein(the true NATO border towards teh east) 500k us troops will drop in in no time to block em from british and french bases.

No one wnats to take russia down.
What they want is to coantain and weaken russia.
Slowly, painfully and costly

YOu really think they giave a dime for people in europe dying as long as it serves their strategic cause?

Ermh.
NO!

This is all about containment and exploiting weak spots of both rhe EU and BRICS.

Nobody will change that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67546844


All you say is true... but that is why there will be no Russian troops in either Ukraine, Baltics or any other EU country. Which would leave the US and the UK army as only option to try march to Moscow themselves LOL.

If we look at it, there have been already a lot of pretty gnarly provocations to force Russia's hand, but all to no avail, so now they are stuck with MSM propaganda of how the Russians are cowards and how Putin is a traitor of the peoples in Donbass. But that's as "successful" their tactics get, derp!

In the meanwhile the EU honcho leadership is imploding, making room for pro-Russian politics in the long run. Sure, they try hard to play on peoples emotions, but I am rather impressed how little of a chance they have.

In the end all they could do is launch a false flag nuclear attack on themselves or launch a nuclear attack on Russia, both schemes would be doomed to fail.
 Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK


clappa
 Quoting: Böze_Tante


They will find a weak spot.
As always.





GLP