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User ID: 56653864 United Kingdom 04/14/2014 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT America ‏@RT_America · 6 min Quoting: Luisport US considers offering military help to Ukraine – Kerry advisor [link to on.rt.com] Didn't the US version of this story say they would only be giving "non-lethal" aid? Euromaidan PR‏@EuromaidanPR·3 mins Quoting: < DL > MaidanMeeting in #Kyiv today decided 2 demand actions or President to resign tmrw morning.Some activists headed 2 #RADA already @HromadskeTV It's not the President that's the problem, it's the army not carrying out his orders. Well the leadership has been so god damn weak that I wouldn't want to be the first soldier to spill blood either. Sacking the president could be the jolt the East needs to show they are serious. IDK, maybe I'm just not thinking straight today. Maybe, but that assumes the army would take orders from anyone. Now, Right Sector could raise militias if not, but I don't think a militia is going to do much against a better equipped militia, supported by Russian special forces, in defencable positions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54888721 Bulgaria 04/14/2014 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 U.S. said there are no plans for providing military assistance to Ukraine Ria Novosti [link to www.interfax.ru] |
Tpotleoz
User ID: 56760006 Australia 04/14/2014 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56820272 You mix two different things. Way back that was Russian territory. What did we do with all those Turks? Mongols initially were very low in numbers and you have to study how Ottoman empire became Ottoman empire. Lots of those "Turks" just chose to remain Turks after the Ottoman empire dissolved. They used to be Byzantines, Greeks, Romans etc I do. Sorry. It didn't occur to me at a time that Greece was Turkish territory for much longer than Crimea was Russian. Eurasian Hellenistic Kingdoms and Greek City states territories started off as 100% Greek, became 100% Grecian-Byzantine (Greek+Latin+Scythe (Slavic)+Assyrian+Armenian) after that Ottoman Empire started and after it was dissolved up 10% were self identified as Greeks, around 60% as Turkish and the rest were being identified with relevant territories. What we know off Crimea historically was Scythe which were fore bearers of the Slavic people, Greek port cities and then the Ottoman Empire. All the slavic people were identified mostly as Russians. It were Polish+Romanian=Russians that make up Ukraine. There is no Ukrainian as we say there is a Greek or a Russian or a Turk. After Muscovia-Moscovia has stolen the name of Rus from Kyivan Rus in attempts to look more ancient in eyes of the whole world people living in a true Rus decided to call themselves Ukrainians in order others don't mix them up with these fucking Muscovits. Maidan should not have played with the Zionists in DC, asking to be taken out by Putin... Eat the Reds |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54888721 Bulgaria 04/14/2014 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 U.S. said there are no plans for providing military assistance to Ukraine Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 Ria Novosti [link to www.interfax.ru] that apparently contradicts with Kerry's adviser |
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Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 04/14/2014 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 U.S. said there are no plans for providing military assistance to Ukraine Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 Ria Novosti [link to www.interfax.ru] the US administation doesn't know it's ass from its elbow in dealing with this issue...it's a complete clusterf*& on their end For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
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User ID: 18308887 United Kingdom 04/14/2014 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 U.S. said there are no plans for providing military assistance to Ukraine Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 Ria Novosti [link to www.interfax.ru] that apparently contradicts with Kerry's adviser Its events on the ground that will drive this not BS from both sides. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35798295 Ukraine 04/14/2014 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I already found out it's a parody account. I went to his page as well. Instead of rolling on the floor laughing why requote it. I will report it to get it removed from yours. Idiot. the fact it is so easy to believe he would say this speaks volumes in itself |
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User ID: 45131038 United States 04/14/2014 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 U.S. said there are no plans for providing military assistance to Ukraine Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 Ria Novosti [link to www.interfax.ru] the US administation doesn't know it's ass from its elbow in dealing with this issue...it's a complete clusterf*& on their end That's all the US is nowadays anyway. Of course like always, shit rolls down hill from the top all the way to bottom. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54888721 Bulgaria 04/14/2014 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Timoshenko on ICTV just called for immediate presidential elections! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] @ vostokUAzaRF |
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User ID: 56653864 United Kingdom 04/14/2014 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 U.S. said there are no plans for providing military assistance to Ukraine Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 Ria Novosti [link to www.interfax.ru] the US administation doesn't know it's ass from its elbow in dealing with this issue...it's a complete clusterf*& on their end And it also depends on how you define "military assistance". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56811800 Portugal 04/14/2014 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I know, really... but it's very difficult to rule this thread. There are a lot of old hate in the region. The thing i know is that there are many powerful people that want this hate to go on... Portugal and Spain are a good exemple to the world, we have wars for centuries, but for some centuries to our days we respect each other and now it's impossible we go to war. We are friends now! |
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User ID: 11619293 United States 04/14/2014 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 U.S. said there are no plans for providing military assistance to Ukraine Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 Ria Novosti [link to www.interfax.ru] the US administation doesn't know it's ass from its elbow in dealing with this issue...it's a complete clusterf*& on their end And it also depends on how you define "military assistance". 330,000 MREs considered military assitance? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56809756 United Kingdom 04/14/2014 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I heard the Donald Cook firing commander is a bit cocky. He almost shot down a Turk 3 days ago. Lets see how cocky they are close to the Bear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56820272 JUST the kinda guy you want with his finger on the "FIRE" button if you are TRYING to create a NEW "RMEMBER THE MAINE" incident! Shoot down Russian Aircraft on a "buzzing" run ... voila, Russians retaliate by sinking the ship ... voila INCIDENT is now an excuse for the US to go to FULL WAR MODE, even though the US shot first and killed first. Kerry, and his Neo-Con handlers, seems to be TRYING to create some sort of incident that gets a War started. Not sure why, but that seems to be their game plan. (arming the Ukrainians and encouraging them to attack locals in Eastern Ukraine seems to be geared towards starting a shooting Civil War in Ukraine as Kiev tries to put down the locals (who are mostly of Russian extraction), which when it breaks out can then also be blamed on the Russians and justifying US going to War) Kerry sure is pushing his, and McCain's, NEW WAR scenario as fast as he can. The US is pushing for war because war is a very lucrative business in a failing economy. Nobody cares about us... the citizens of the USA - it's always, all about $$$$$$. What a life !! I agree with this fully. We can barely take care of ourselves much less run a full scale war. the moment a war starts any rights you have left even though we may say they are cracking down on us all in the west, Will be gone War is a business of power you are effectively placed under a dictatorship.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56812916 Germany 04/14/2014 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 how come a country on the other side of the ocean i telling the EU how we should deal with our russian neigbours? If all hell breaks lose in europe they can relax in north america and enjoy the show. Boko Haram Islamist militant group have killed 70 civilians in nigeria yesterday. More than 1500 this year. If they want to play world police go help in Africa. Go help in North Korea where 100.000 people are getting tortured in prison camps. How come no one gives a fuck about that? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40389648 United States 04/14/2014 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 U.S. said there are no plans for providing military assistance to Ukraine Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 Ria Novosti [link to www.interfax.ru] the US administation doesn't know it's ass from its elbow in dealing with this issue...it's a complete clusterf*& on their end And it also depends on how you define "military assistance". 330,000 MREs considered military assitance? All of you write me up a case study and recommendation proposal on what we should do and convincing evidence of those recommendations having their desired effects. I expect it on my desk by the end of the business day. I'm sure a couple of armchair generals such as yourself will have no trouble going beyond snark to something of substance. In lieu of the case study, you may Instagram me a shot of you signing up for the service. Thank you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56816386 Croatia 04/14/2014 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56816386 I do. Sorry. It didn't occur to me at a time that Greece was Turkish territory for much longer than Crimea was Russian. Eurasian Hellenistic Kingdoms and Greek City states territories started off as 100% Greek, became 100% Grecian-Byzantine (Greek+Latin+Scythe (Slavic)+Assyrian+Armenian) after that Ottoman Empire started and after it was dissolved up 10% were self identified as Greeks, around 60% as Turkish and the rest were being identified with relevant territories. What we know off Crimea historically was Scythe which were fore bearers of the Slavic people, Greek port cities and then the Ottoman Empire. All the slavic people were identified mostly as Russians. It were Polish+Romanian=Russians that make up Ukraine. There is no Ukrainian as we say there is a Greek or a Russian or a Turk. That is not true. All Slavs are Serbs. So are the Greeks, Helenized Serbs. If you don't believe me, ask Dr. J. Deretich, emminent Serbian Historian. :) my point is that if you are unilaterally changing borders in Europe on a basis of some historical shit, you are opening Pandora's box. And that ain't good or smart thing to do..unless you want to provoke WW3. OK people this is thread about Ukraine, not about Croats, Serbs, Macedonie, or,... so please stay on the line,... A ti druže Anonymous Coward User ID: 56816386 smiri malo strasti,... It's not just about Ukraine. it's about lot of other shit too, like about NATO, Russia, WW3, end of the world as we know it and you, my friend, know that very fucking well. Mentioning other shit serves it's purpose too, it gives non Europeans variety of European's perspectives...so they can understand better present situation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56812916 Germany 04/14/2014 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20589235 JUST the kinda guy you want with his finger on the "FIRE" button if you are TRYING to create a NEW "RMEMBER THE MAINE" incident! Shoot down Russian Aircraft on a "buzzing" run ... voila, Russians retaliate by sinking the ship ... voila INCIDENT is now an excuse for the US to go to FULL WAR MODE, even though the US shot first and killed first. Kerry, and his Neo-Con handlers, seems to be TRYING to create some sort of incident that gets a War started. Not sure why, but that seems to be their game plan. (arming the Ukrainians and encouraging them to attack locals in Eastern Ukraine seems to be geared towards starting a shooting Civil War in Ukraine as Kiev tries to put down the locals (who are mostly of Russian extraction), which when it breaks out can then also be blamed on the Russians and justifying US going to War) Kerry sure is pushing his, and McCain's, NEW WAR scenario as fast as he can. The US is pushing for war because war is a very lucrative business in a failing economy. Nobody cares about us... the citizens of the USA - it's always, all about $$$$$$. What a life !! I agree with this fully. We can barely take care of ourselves much less run a full scale war. the moment a war starts any rights you have left even though we may say they are cracking down on us all in the west, Will be gone War is a business of power you are effectively placed under a dictatorship.... USA push for war because they are the only super power in the world and they want to keep it that way. The last thing they want is a united peaceful eurasian continent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56810395 Greece 04/14/2014 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 A U.S. military official also said that a Russian Navy ship, a frigate, has been shadowing the U.S. warship, remaining within visual distance but not close enough to be unsafe. The official was not authorized to discuss the incident publicly so spoke on condition of anonymity. Quoting: Newshunter [link to hosted.ap.org] Good then! Maybe it's not their time to die yet! Nobody ever blamed Russians for being discrete. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55030468 United Kingdom 04/14/2014 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I know, really... but it's very difficult to rule this thread. There are a lot of old hate in the region. The thing i know is that there are many powerful people that want this hate to go on... Portugal and Spain are a good exemple to the world, we have wars for centuries, but for some centuries to our days we respect each other and now it's impossible we go to war. We are friends now! They showed the Atlantic ocean on a tourist map I got in Spain once right where Portugal was supposed to be. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31776491 United States 04/14/2014 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT America ‏@RT_America · 6 min Quoting: Luisport US considers offering military help to Ukraine – Kerry advisor [link to on.rt.com] |
Tpotleoz
User ID: 56760006 Australia 04/14/2014 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I know, really... but it's very difficult to rule this thread. There are a lot of old hate in the region. The thing i know is that there are many powerful people that want this hate to go on... Portugal and Spain are a good exemple to the world, we have wars for centuries, but for some centuries to our days we respect each other and now it's impossible we go to war. We are friends now! A thread on Ukraine is a thread on a country that suffered the Holodomyr, very recently, 6-10 million starved to death intentionally. The Hate will be bottomless in the wrong circumstances. Eat the Reds |
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User ID: 56653864 United Kingdom 04/14/2014 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 All of you write me up a case study and recommendation proposal on what we should do and convincing evidence of those recommendations having their desired effects. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40389648 I expect it on my desk by the end of the business day. I'm sure a couple of armchair generals such as yourself will have no trouble going beyond snark to something of substance. In lieu of the case study, you may Instagram me a shot of you signing up for the service. Thank you. I don't consider myself much of an armchair general, but still: What I think the west should do is 1) tell Kiev that they are free to defend themselves if they are able, but we wont provide "boots on the ground assistance". I would provide intel and radar cover (via the AWACs moved to Poland) though. 2) Tell Russia that we know their are Russian special forces on the ground and can prove it if needed, and tell them to get out. 3) Keep the pressure on at the UN and through sanctions on Russian companies, and keep open the threat of sanctions on Russian gas. 4) If Russia continue to ignore everything and insist that there are no Russians in Ukraine, start to obviously reinforce NATO borders in Poland and the Baltic states. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56811800 Portugal 04/14/2014 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I know, really... but it's very difficult to rule this thread. There are a lot of old hate in the region. The thing i know is that there are many powerful people that want this hate to go on... Portugal and Spain are a good exemple to the world, we have wars for centuries, but for some centuries to our days we respect each other and now it's impossible we go to war. We are friends now! A thread on Ukraine is a thread on a country that suffered the Holodomyr, very recently, 6-10 million starved to death intentionally. The Hate will be bottomless in the wrong circumstances. Yes i understand it, but it's very bad... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56826203 Croatia 04/14/2014 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56816386 I do. Sorry. It didn't occur to me at a time that Greece was Turkish territory for much longer than Crimea was Russian. Eurasian Hellenistic Kingdoms and Greek City states territories started off as 100% Greek, became 100% Grecian-Byzantine (Greek+Latin+Scythe (Slavic)+Assyrian+Armenian) after that Ottoman Empire started and after it was dissolved up 10% were self identified as Greeks, around 60% as Turkish and the rest were being identified with relevant territories. What we know off Crimea historically was Scythe which were fore bearers of the Slavic people, Greek port cities and then the Ottoman Empire. All the slavic people were identified mostly as Russians. It were Polish+Romanian=Russians that make up Ukraine. There is no Ukrainian as we say there is a Greek or a Russian or a Turk. After Muscovia-Moscovia has stolen the name of Rus from Kyivan Rus in attempts to look more ancient in eyes of the whole world people living in a true Rus decided to call themselves Ukrainians in order others don't mix them up with these fucking Muscovits. Moscow was today's Ukrainians escaping the Mongols, before that Moscow was a few huts. Kiev is 5000+ yrs old. Putin is just a fucking mangled ex-communist. What do you talking about, exactly? We all can use google you know. The exact century of city of Kiev foundation has not been determined. Legend has it that the emergence of a great city on the future location of Kiev was prophesied by St. Andrew (d. AD 60/70) fascinated by the spectacular location on the hilly shores of the Dnieper River. The city is thought to have existed as early as the 6th century, initially as a Slavic settlement. Gradually acquiring eminence as the center of the East Slavic civilization, Kiev reached its Golden Age as the center Kievan Rus' in the 10th–12th centuries. The first reference to Moscow dates from 1147 as a meeting place of Yuri Dolgorukiy and Sviatoslav Olgovich. At the time it was a minor town on the western border of Vladimir-Suzdal Principality. ("Voice of Russia" claims that archaeologists have discovered artifacts pushing the history of the city back a century.) In 1156, Knjaz Yury Dolgoruky fortified the town with a timber fence and a moat. In the course of the Mongol invasion of Rus, the Golden Horde burned the city to the ground and killed its inhabitants. Daniel I ruled Moscow as Grand Duke until 1303 and established it as a prosperous city which would eclipse its parent principality of Vladimir by the 1320s. On the right bank of the Moskva River, at a distance of 5 miles from the Kremlin not later than in 1282 Daniel founded the first monastery with the wooden church of St. Daniel-Stylite. Now it is the Danilov Monastery. Daniel died in 1303, at the age of 42. Before his death he became a monk and, according to his will, was buried in the cemetery of the St. Daniel Monastery. Moscow was stable and prosperous for many years and attracted a large numbers of refugees from across Russia. and so on, thanks for the history reminder though! |