UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55885522 Canada 08/28/2014 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 It is the right decision for US to not militarily involve in Ukraine. It is not worth it. Europe should also easen up tension with Russia, not irritate it further. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5965882 Perhaps Ukraine would be better in Russian hands, who would know? Think it would, before this crisis happened Russia made Ukraine several offers to rebuild it's economy and pay off their debts in a way that would benefit them both. In any case, better than to become the IMF's bitch. But since western Ukraine seems hellbent on focusing on the EU and all... You know, i often wonder what Kiev is going to do if they would reclaim all of it's territory in the (south)east and close the border to Russia. Lot of people in eastern Ukraine really, really dislike the course they see their country is taking, and don't necessarily don't want to be a part of Russia, but there's still a lot of bad blood between these two halves of people who both have very different ideas what should be happening. The problems that existed before this war, will be there after this war. If Kiev starts bullying (ethnic russians and russia leaning Ukrainians) these people out, what's to stop Russia from acting again? I say, split the country up. Saves everyone a lot of trouble, and everyone's a winner. Ofcourse, like Crimea's wishes to join with Russia (Don't deny it, the far majority did, hence it's greater autonomy in the past), an eastern Ukraine or Novorussiya will never be accepted or recognized by a large part of the world. Even if it would mean that it eases decades long tensions and both would get what they want. This is all nice & dandy but there's absolutely no guarantee that the splitting up of ex-Soviet and ex-commie countries will stop with this. In fact, this splitting up will encourage further advancement of the Russian agenda of surrounding itself with enclaves which can be easily destabilized and used as launchpads for proxy wars. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62265757 Italy 08/28/2014 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 55s Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com] To Russia? hmm Russian President Putin has called on the self-defense militias in Ukraine to provide Kiev's military units blocked in the East of the country with a safe humanitarian corridor to cross into Russia. "safe humanitarian corridor into russia" LOL, safe corridor my ass, i can't describe how much i hate this man. Fucking bastard, one day he will pay. |
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FormerlyBritish
User ID: 60582120 United States 08/28/2014 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... an eastern Ukraine or Novorussiya will never be accepted or recognized by a large part of the world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57271883 Even if it would mean that it eases decades long tensions and both would get what they want. It doesn't matter that much. Novorossiya can have a similar relationship with Russia to the relationship that Mongolia had with the Soviet Union. The exports (mostly metal and food) could go out through the new Crimean port of Frunze when construction is completed and be legally a Russian product to overcome any recognition issues (though that may be overstated in any case). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62265757 Italy 08/28/2014 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 55s Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com] To Russia? hmm Russian President Putin has called on the self-defense militias in Ukraine to provide Kiev's military units blocked in the East of the country with a safe humanitarian corridor to cross into Russia. "safe humanitarian corridor into russia" LOL, safe corridor my ass, i can't describe how much i hate this man. Fucking bastard, one day he will pay. “It is obvious that the militia has reached a considerable success in curbing Kiev’s military operation, that had been a deadly threat to the population of Donbass and already led to heavy casualties among civilians,” Putin said. |
FormerlyBritish
User ID: 60582120 United States 08/28/2014 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 55s Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com] To Russia? hmm Russian President Putin has called on the self-defense militias in Ukraine to provide Kiev's military units blocked in the East of the country with a safe humanitarian corridor to cross into Russia. "safe humanitarian corridor into russia" LOL, safe corridor my ass, i can't describe how much i hate this man. Fucking bastard, one day he will pay. They have been intentionally firing artillery and rockets into homes, schools, hospitals. They need killing, not safe passage. |
Nuke68
User ID: 47917525 Ireland 08/28/2014 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 55s Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com] To Russia? hmm Smart move. Frees up the militia to fight somewhere else. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62231604 United Kingdom 08/28/2014 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 55s Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com] To Russia? hmm Clever bastard! That is just genius, riots in Kiev to save the troops, Putin brings them home. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61313369 United States 08/28/2014 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 31s 'Russia will provide aid to #Ukraine’s regions suffering from humanitarian disaster'- Putin [link to on.rt.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55885522 Canada 08/28/2014 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 55s Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com] To Russia? hmm Russian President Putin has called on the self-defense militias in Ukraine to provide Kiev's military units blocked in the East of the country with a safe humanitarian corridor to cross into Russia. "safe humanitarian corridor into russia" LOL, safe corridor my ass, i can't describe how much i hate this man. Fucking bastard, one day he will pay. As long as the friggin' krauts keep protecting their vested multi-billion euros interests in Russia, EU has no chance to make him "pay". And neither does US have any intention of making him pay, as already announced by the Clown-in-Chief. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62265757 Italy 08/28/2014 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin just take side with terrorist and declared himself and russia federation as backers of terrorists AGAINST ukraine. In other words, he directly declared State of Ukraine as enemy of russia federation |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62264640 Slovenia 08/28/2014 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Sheesh .... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20589235 LOTS of bluster talk from Ukraine and totally fabricated stories time after time ... reminds me of Bagdad Bob (what happened to his picture here? - needed for all the FALSE statements coming out of Kiev!!). Ukraine clearly wants to stir the pot and get the United States and Europe into a full scale WAR with Russia, which is why they are making up all these stories. I am sure those pushing for the US and Europe to get into a full War against Russia feel everything will be done and everybody will be home by Christmas if they can get it started. I think we have all heard that tall tale before. Those in the US and in Europe need to ask themselves is Eastern Ukraine, which is ethnically mostly Russian to begin with, worth getting into a World War over? Eastern Ukraine is clearly VERY important to Russia because of the access it provides to their ONLY warm water major seaport, but it really isn't important to the US or the West at all ... except as an EXCUSE to GO TO WAR. War Mongers seem to be salting the internet, and the news media, in their effort to start a major War. I wonder why? Well, there are some folks even in this thread, who thinks 20 A-10 jets with hundred flyovers would solve the problem in 24 hours That guy who wrote it, apperantly forgot about S-400 and S-500 gadgets. Who really knows how manny S-500 Russians produced. It would get real ugly for NATO in first hours of campaign, I'm sure in that. And when B-2's would start to fall down the hard reality Will kick west in the face. NATO cant do shit here. I'm not underestimating NATO...far from that. But fact, that Russia is so close to the border tells us, they dont really need to perform invasion. NATO would have to establish a major logistic project while Russia doesnt. They are right there in the neighbourhood. |
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Krispy71
User ID: 39765605 Netherlands 08/28/2014 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59091614 RUSSIa is the enemy. Is it going to CRUSH itself? It seems likely. Since Sweden is now much more Marxist Communist than Russia, from my pov, Sweden is the enemy. And insane. Any country opening itself to massive Islamic immigration doesn't need an outside enemy to destroy it. Russia is simply the external boogie man needed to explain your self destructive social policies. Am I right? I thought I was posting from Norway. Never mind. Russia is the the enemy of mankind, if you will, while you are the enemy of the USA I understand. We live in an evil world and all the Western countries are conspiring together. Until the opposite is proven, Russia is the only hope that someone might have good intentions. Against the Zionist complex, being able to reveal there intriguing games all over the world. I hope Russians has, as its primary goal, only to reestablish their old country which was destroyed by the Zionists causing the Russian Revolution and establishing of the Soviet Union. When I see the Western countries so obsessed to get Russia on its knees by causing the rebellions in neighboring countries, it is almost proof to me that they want to prevent Putin from reaching such a goal. I believe really Putin has got it in his heart to go back to the old times, the old nation as Russia was meant to be. Of course the Zionists are very angry to loose what they obtained about 100 years ago. It could be a major obstacle for the One World Government, becoming formed by the Zionist Communists who now have almost gained the whole World except Russia. Great post! I think you are right. Xxxx |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62265757 Italy 08/28/2014 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 55s Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com] To Russia? hmm Russian President Putin has called on the self-defense militias in Ukraine to provide Kiev's military units blocked in the East of the country with a safe humanitarian corridor to cross into Russia. "safe humanitarian corridor into russia" LOL, safe corridor my ass, i can't describe how much i hate this man. Fucking bastard, one day he will pay. They have been intentionally firing artillery and rockets into homes, schools, hospitals. They need killing, not safe passage. Shut the fuck up |
karamel
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54557993 Canada 08/28/2014 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana · 13s Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box REPORTS That effective August 30, all able bodied males in #Kharkov military district being called up for service... #cdnpoli #Ukraine Shoulda happened two months ago. Too late now. no kidding |
Krispy71
User ID: 39765605 Netherlands 08/28/2014 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Does that then mean the US taxpayers are going to have to subsidize everything Ukraine wants, send them the latest arms, protect every internationally dirty act they do, pay them to lobby the US government to act in their interest and not that of the US citizens, always kiss their ass, go along with their false flags, even if it means attacking US assets and killing Americans? If so, wow, what a deal for the Ukraine. It means the US will deploy forces, build bases and munitions stockpiles. And Donbass area, Donetsk and Lugansk, will bekomen the New Gala, the New Palestinians.... xxxK |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62264640 Slovenia 08/28/2014 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russian ambassador is really pissed!! Quoting: Limpan US stay away from Ukraine!!! Whole world would be better Translation from Russian side: We know we can't beat the Americans in a conventional war in in Western and Central Ukraine, so lets just try and scare them from entering Ukraine at all. Your too funny...Americans would get absolutly obliterated in Ukraine. Now if we compare NATO strenght against Russia, NATO wins easily, excluding nukes of course. But in UA factors are on side of Russia. |
N.O.S. (nli) User ID: 62178877 Serbia 08/28/2014 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin just take side with terrorist and declared himself and russia federation as backers of terrorists AGAINST ukraine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62265757 In other words, he directly declared State of Ukraine as enemy of russia federation The "State of Ukraine" is a failed state since the "Maidan"... A failed project... Crimea is Russia. Some other oblasts are going to be Novorossia or whatever the people inhabiting those oblasts want to call it... and the rest of the world will just have to deal with it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62254292 Croatia 08/28/2014 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 55s Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com] To Russia? hmm Why is that problem for you? “I urge the militias to open a humanitarian corridor for Ukrainian troops that were surrounded, in order to avoid meaningless victims and provide them with the opportunity to freely withdraw from the battlefield area, to be reunited with their families, to return to their mothers, wives and children,” Putin said. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62264640 Slovenia 08/28/2014 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 55s Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com] To Russia? hmm Its where they want to go. Penalty for desertion gives you 15 years of prison if I'm not mistaken. |
Zuckerborg
User ID: 55469946 Luxembourg 08/28/2014 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 55s Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com] To Russia? hmm does your 88 stand for Heil Hitler? |
Taskforce88
User ID: 60988317 United Kingdom 08/28/2014 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 55s Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com] To Russia? hmm does your 88 stand for Heil Hitler? Nope. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62264640 Slovenia 08/28/2014 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 It is the right decision for US to not militarily involve in Ukraine. It is not worth it. Europe should also easen up tension with Russia, not irritate it further. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5965882 Perhaps Ukraine would be better in Russian hands, who would know? Think it would, before this crisis happened Russia made Ukraine several offers to rebuild it's economy and pay off their debts in a way that would benefit them both. In any case, better than to become the IMF's bitch. But since western Ukraine seems hellbent on focusing on the EU and all... You know, i often wonder what Kiev is going to do if they would reclaim all of it's territory in the (south)east and close the border to Russia. Lot of people in eastern Ukraine really, really dislike the course they see their country is taking, and don't necessarily don't want to be a part of Russia, but there's still a lot of bad blood between these two halves of people who both have very different ideas what should be happening. The problems that existed before this war, will be there after this war. If Kiev starts bullying (ethnic russians and russia leaning Ukrainians) these people out, what's to stop Russia from acting again? I say, split the country up. Saves everyone a lot of trouble, and everyone's a winner. Ofcourse, like Crimea's wishes to join with Russia (Don't deny it, the far majority did, hence it's greater autonomy in the past), an eastern Ukraine or Novorussiya will never be accepted or recognized by a large part of the world. Even if it would mean that it eases decades long tensions and both would get what they want. This is all nice & dandy but there's absolutely no guarantee that the splitting up of ex-Soviet and ex-commie countries will stop with this. In fact, this splitting up will encourage further advancement of the Russian agenda of surrounding itself with enclaves which can be easily destabilized and used as launchpads for proxy wars. FFS, what are you talking about?! You are saying like Russia has an agenda to take over whole Europe...does anybody really believes this shit or are shills just pushing the idea as a part of an ongoing demonizing of Russians thats been going on for at least 200 years.. |
FormerlyBritish
User ID: 60582120 United States 08/28/2014 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Well, there are some folks even in this thread, who thinks 20 A-10 jets with hundred flyovers would solve the problem in 24 hours That guy who wrote it, apperantly forgot about S-400 and S-500 gadgets. Who really knows how manny S-500 Russians produced. It would get real ugly for NATO in first hours of campaign, I'm sure in that. And when B-2's would start to fall down the hard reality Will kick west in the face. NATO cant do shit here. I'm not underestimating NATO...far from that. But fact, that Russia is so close to the border tells us, they dont really need to perform invasion. NATO would have to establish a major logistic project while Russia doesnt. They are right there in the neighbourhood. Quoting: Matjaz It may be they are willing to sacrifice a few dozen modern jets (not the ancient A-10s so much), in order to uncover the capabilities and limitations (and weaknesses) of the S-500. How better to find out than to lose some in combat? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62264640 Slovenia 08/28/2014 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin just take side with terrorist and declared himself and russia federation as backers of terrorists AGAINST ukraine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62265757 In other words, he directly declared State of Ukraine as enemy of russia federation The "State of Ukraine" is a failed state since the "Maidan"... A failed project... Crimea is Russia. Some other oblasts are going to be Novorossia or whatever the people inhabiting those oblasts want to call it... and the rest of the world will just have to deal with it. and thats all there is... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62250021 Uruguay 08/28/2014 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 55s Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box URGENT: Putin calls on E. #Ukraine militia to provide blocked Kiev troops with safe corridor to Russia [link to on.rt.com] To Russia? hmm Russian President Putin has called on the self-defense militias in Ukraine to provide Kiev's military units blocked in the East of the country with a safe humanitarian corridor to cross into Russia. "safe humanitarian corridor into russia" LOL, safe corridor my ass, i can't describe how much i hate this man. Fucking bastard, one day he will pay. Normally I do not uses these kind of words in replying to other posters Then again I do not have to. This says it all, now doesn't it. [link to telemarksporten.no] Take care |