UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56105819 United States 03/26/2014 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 1433 GMT: The tanks reported near the border north of Kiev are not just on trains, either. Take this video (which we are still working to verify) reportedly showing Russian tanks on the ground and on the move near Novozybkov, which is just north of the Ukrainian capital. If these tanks are where the video says they are, they’re within an hour from the Ukrainian border. Quoting: Newshunter Rock Solid Politics @BradCabana 26.03.14 12th Tank Regiment from Moscow (elite) in Novozybkov-Klimov on #Ukraine border #cdnpoli : [link to youtu.be] via @YouTube 1) 10:24 AM - 26 Mar 2014 [link to www.interpretermag.com] Invasion imminent if verified ? Mattr of hours ? Just verified those deployments. They are real. It still doesn't say an invasion is coming, it says one may be coming or that the Russians are simply using the buildup as an intimidation card to get their way. Understood but what is "their way" at this point? What is the prospect that anyone on the other side is politically strong enough to negotiate concessions? This whole situation began with an unacceptable (to Russia) fait accompli in Kiev. None of that has changed with the Crimean annexation. I don't know if the terrain needs to dry out before actual operations but I can't believe the pentagon wargaming for a showdown over Ukraine really envisions Russia standing down over economic threats. What am I missing? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56109137 United States 03/26/2014 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56110959 Italy 03/26/2014 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I don't know if anyone here feels the same, but there is an "escalation air" today... nothing much happened, but a lot of reports about military moving, east and south situation (like Odessa) is even more difficult, ITAR TASS reported also that Odessa citiziens this morning found a lot of papers in the streets and mail boxes, asking for the return of Yanukovich... |
Janey User ID: 55727230 United Kingdom 03/26/2014 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
GodzillaReturns
Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 03/26/2014 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 as long as I've had my coffee no one gets heatrayed I'm so watching your upcoming movie lol assuming we all live that long with all this crap going on For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42497416 United Kingdom 03/26/2014 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT @EuromaidanPR: #Obama agrees to export natural gas to #Europe in the amount required for the daily usage [link to tvrain.ru] … |PR News #Ukraine #Crimea Quoting: Newshunter Treason by Obama. American fracking gas will last a few years at most. Exporting it only shortens that time frame. No chance of natural gas exports in the near future as the USA is still a net importer. [link to www.eia.gov] Several companies are planning to build liquefaction capacity to export LNG from the United States. Cheniere Energy’s Sabine Pass facility is planned to be the first to liquefy natural gas produced in the Lower 48 states for export. The facility has a total liquefaction capacity of 3 Bcf/d and is scheduled to come online in stages beginning in late 2015. Growing domestic production over the past several years has displaced some pipeline imports from Canada, while exports to Mexico have increased. EIA expects these trends will continue through 2015. EIA projects net imports of 3.6 Bcf/d in 2014 and 2.6 Bcf/d in 2015, which would be the lowest level since 1987. Over the longer term, the EIA Annual Energy Outlook 2014 projects the United States will be a net exporter of natural gas beginning in 2018. [link to ir.eia.gov] Working gas in storage was 953 Bcf as of Friday, March 14, 2014, according to EIA estimates. This represents a net decline of 48 Bcf from the previous week. Stocks were 932 Bcf less than last year at this time and 876 Bcf below the 5-year average of 1,829 Bcf. In the East Region, stocks were 399 Bcf below the 5-year average following net withdrawals of 35 Bcf. Stocks in the Producing Region were 351 Bcf below the 5-year average of 742 Bcf after a net withdrawal of 11 Bcf. Stocks in the West Region were 126 Bcf below the 5-year average after a net drawdown of 2 Bcf. At 953 Bcf, total working gas is below the 5-year historical range. [link to ir.eia.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55885522 Canada 03/26/2014 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I don't know if anyone here feels the same, but there is an "escalation air" today... nothing much happened, but a lot of reports about military moving, east and south situation (like Odessa) is even more difficult, ITAR TASS reported also that Odessa citiziens this morning found a lot of papers in the streets and mail boxes, asking for the return of Yanukovich... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56110959 Both the flooding of media with equipment & troops on the move and the pro-Yanukovich propaganda serve 2 purposes, as I said: demoralizing/intimidation and a spark for inter-ethnic war - with the 2nd being the trigger for full invasion. |
DawaSatso
User ID: 53681375 United States 03/26/2014 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 You can't take Crimea without taking other parts of Ukraine people. Just a matter of time, not really even up for debate IMO. Quoting: < DL > Yes. The Ukraine people like the crimeans have their own way of responding to this sudden implanted group with their feet up on the desks. Momentum already is apparent from within including how their own internal forces will react to these circumstances. Lessening the need for aggressive russian offensives which everybody seems spin. Gee,just what if the Ukrainians fix it themselves..think Obla's Corporate sales to Monsanto & oil co's 6 months ago for their cut of this country will be taken lying down? Of course not. So they might need augmented thuggery to beat the people back down. |
Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/26/2014 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Current status of #Ukraine's naval fleet: 51 Ukraine ships stolen by Russia Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315 Still baffles me why the ships did not leave Crimea when Russia demanded it at the beginning .... I mean if they were going to stand and fight it's one thing .... Guess that's part of the reason the defense minister was sacked? Sun_dancer |
GodzillaReturns
Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 03/26/2014 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Current status of #Ukraine's naval fleet: 51 Ukraine ships stolen by Russia Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315 Still baffles me why the ships did not leave Crimea when Russia demanded it at the beginning .... I mean if they were going to stand and fight it's one thing .... Guess that's part of the reason the defense minister was sacked? defense minister should've been shot for that, it's tantamount to treason For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
< DL >
User ID: 11619293 United States 03/26/2014 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 #Ukraine's Ministry of Defense compiles list of items one must have ready in a backpack should country go to war [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] … |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 648576 United States 03/26/2014 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Current status of #Ukraine's naval fleet: 51 Ukraine ships stolen by Russia Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315 Still baffles me why the ships did not leave Crimea when Russia demanded it at the beginning .... I mean if they were going to stand and fight it's one thing .... Guess that's part of the reason the defense minister was sacked? Because the Russians scuttled ships in the bay entrance NOT ALLOWING them to leave. They never were asked to leave, they were asked to surrender from the beginning. Even if you take the position of reoccupying Crimea as righting an historical wrong, taking the Ukrainian naval vessels is nothing short of piracy. |
Lime Flavoured Redux
User ID: 1118020 United Kingdom 03/26/2014 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Christopher Miller‏@ChristopherJM·32 secs Quoting: < DL > #Ukraine's Ministry of Defense compiles list of items one must have ready in a backpack should country go to war [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] … Not a bad idea, although I think any war is likely to be over too quickly for it to make much difference lol. |
GodzillaReturns
Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 03/26/2014 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Christopher Miller‏@ChristopherJM·32 secs Quoting: < DL > #Ukraine's Ministry of Defense compiles list of items one must have ready in a backpack should country go to war [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] … wow is it me or US/UK and rest of europe just way behind the eight ball on this while the russians are just like...yeah we did all that already where have you guys been? For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55119325 United States 03/26/2014 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56085894 Portugal 03/26/2014 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Newshunter
User ID: 22884594 United States 03/26/2014 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/26/2014 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Current status of #Ukraine's naval fleet: 51 Ukraine ships stolen by Russia Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315 Someone should have told their navy that the idea is to provide defence... EuromaidanPR Ukr military equipment in #Crimea worth 18bln UAH. #Ukraine will claim reimbursement from #Russia if hampered to bring it to mainland. Yeah, problem is Russia has the Kosovo precedent from the International Court of Justice, which stated, in relevant part, "the adoption of the declaration of independence of the 17 February 2008 did not violate general international law because international law contains no 'prohibition on declarations of independence'". [link to en.wikipedia.org] Obviously Kosovo did not have to pay Serbia the value of Kosovo upon secession, so by analogy Crimea will owe Ukraine nothing for having declared independence. And the ships - they also became the property of Crimea when they refused to leave. Of course it does give Ukraine a reason to delay payment of the moneys it owes Russia - but Russia could still resort to self-help and cut off the gas tap. Sun_dancer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56111372 United Kingdom 03/26/2014 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Christopher Miller‏@ChristopherJM·32 secs Quoting: < DL > #Ukraine's Ministry of Defense compiles list of items one must have ready in a backpack should country go to war [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] … Not a bad idea, although I think any war is likely to be over too quickly for it to make much difference lol. Those are things to survive, not fight actually. |
< DL >
User ID: 11619293 United States 03/26/2014 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote·1 min Crimea reports crude products supply at 5 days only. Problems with light products but they expect russian companies to come rescue them |
< DL >
User ID: 11619293 United States 03/26/2014 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Kirk
User ID: 56098376 United States 03/26/2014 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Current status of #Ukraine's naval fleet: 51 Ukraine ships stolen by Russia Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315 Still baffles me why the ships did not leave Crimea when Russia demanded it at the beginning .... I mean if they were going to stand and fight it's one thing .... Guess that's part of the reason the defense minister was sacked? Because the Russians scuttled ships in the bay entrance NOT ALLOWING them to leave. They never were asked to leave, they were asked to surrender from the beginning. Even if you take the position of reoccupying Crimea as righting an historical wrong, taking the Ukrainian naval vessels is nothing short of piracy. They belong to the land they are annexing. How can you pirate from yourself? Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
Lime Flavoured Redux
User ID: 1118020 United Kingdom 03/26/2014 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Christopher Miller‏@ChristopherJM·32 secs Quoting: < DL > #Ukraine's Ministry of Defense compiles list of items one must have ready in a backpack should country go to war [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] … Not a bad idea, although I think any war is likely to be over too quickly for it to make much difference lol. Those are things to survive, not fight actually. Yeah, but if things were to go in the way they could, with Russia winning a "war" in less than 24 hours, there isn't really going t be a need for a bug out bag. |
Janey User ID: 55727230 United Kingdom 03/26/2014 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Just being told there are a chunk of assets now moving North from Simferopol. Not sure what a chunk is numerically yet though :) Current thinking is they may be reinforcing the Crimea border. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37289132 United Kingdom 03/26/2014 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT @EuromaidanPR: 50 vehicles such as tanks, BTRs & cars with troops moving towards #Simferopol (center of Crimea) from the northern #Crimea now @KrymSOS |PR Quoting: Newshunter just on messenger now with one of the journos there. This tweet is backwards. The units are moving north FROM Simferopol I want your children. Even if you are proper old, I just want to tap it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56111372 United Kingdom 03/26/2014 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Christopher Miller‏@ChristopherJM·32 secs Quoting: < DL > #Ukraine's Ministry of Defense compiles list of items one must have ready in a backpack should country go to war [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] … Not a bad idea, although I think any war is likely to be over too quickly for it to make much difference lol. Those are things to survive, not fight actually. Yeah, but if things were to go in the way they could, with Russia winning a "war" in less than 24 hours, there isn't really going t be a need for a bug out bag. It's cold outside. lol |
GodzillaReturns
Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 03/26/2014 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Just being told there are a chunk of assets now moving North from Simferopol. Not sure what a chunk is numerically yet though :) Quoting: Janey 55727230 Current thinking is they may be reinforcing the Crimea border. lol...will have to add "chunk" into military language dictionary first chance I get when we have an actual number For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
< DL >
User ID: 11619293 United States 03/26/2014 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Euromaidan PR‏@EuromaidanPR·1 min #Poland cancels #Polish-#Russian forum that was supposed to take place in #Gdańsk in April [link to www.ukrinform.ua] … |PR News #Crimea #Putin |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56109137 United States 03/26/2014 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Just being told there are a chunk of assets now moving North from Simferopol. Not sure what a chunk is numerically yet though :) Quoting: Janey 55727230 Current thinking is they may be reinforcing the Crimea border. lol...will have to add "chunk" into military language dictionary first chance I get when we have an actual number Damn its too to early to break out the map. Heading from Simferopol due north puts them where? |
NawtyBits
User ID: 56060863 United States 03/26/2014 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Current status of #Ukraine's naval fleet: 51 Ukraine ships stolen by Russia Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315 Still baffles me why the ships did not leave Crimea when Russia demanded it at the beginning .... I mean if they were going to stand and fight it's one thing .... Guess that's part of the reason the defense minister was sacked? Maybe DM underestimated the number of "defections"? Maybe DM expected more help from "outside sources"? Maybe DM underestimated his opponents initiative? Maybe DM was a dumbass. WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |