Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,156 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 241,754
Pageviews Today: 308,641Threads Today: 62Posts Today: 1,004
02:38 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

 Thread Locked 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 56105819
United States
03/26/2014 11:03 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
1433 GMT: The tanks reported near the border north of Kiev are not just on trains, either. Take this video (which we are still working to verify) reportedly showing Russian tanks on the ground and on the move near Novozybkov, which is just north of the Ukrainian capital. If these tanks are where the video says they are, they’re within an hour from the Ukrainian border.


Rock Solid Politics @BradCabana
26.03.14 12th Tank Regiment from Moscow (elite) in Novozybkov-Klimov on #Ukraine border #cdnpoli : [link to youtu.be] via @YouTube 1)
10:24 AM - 26 Mar 2014


[link to www.interpretermag.com]
 Quoting: Newshunter


Invasion imminent if verified ? Mattr of hours ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55878103


Just verified those deployments. They are real.

It still doesn't say an invasion is coming, it says one may be coming or that the Russians are simply using the buildup as an intimidation card to get their way.
 Quoting: Janey 55727230


Understood but what is "their way" at this point? What is the prospect that anyone on the other side is politically strong enough to negotiate concessions? This whole situation began with an unacceptable (to Russia) fait accompli in Kiev. None of that has changed with the Crimean annexation. I don't know if the terrain needs to dry out before actual operations but I can't believe the pentagon wargaming for a showdown over Ukraine really envisions Russia standing down over economic threats. What am I missing?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 56109137
United States
03/26/2014 11:04 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
...


speak for yourself I take my shirt off and he's intimidated tounge
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


Well of course. You're a giant fire breathing primeval lizard.
 Quoting: BioReaper


and that is only when you catch him on a good day!
 Quoting: Janey 55727230


as long as I've had my coffee no one gets heatrayed
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


I'm so watching your upcoming movie lol
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 56110959
Italy
03/26/2014 11:06 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
I don't know if anyone here feels the same, but there is an "escalation air" today... nothing much happened, but a lot of reports about military moving, east and south situation (like Odessa) is even more difficult, ITAR TASS reported also that Odessa citiziens this morning found a lot of papers in the streets and mail boxes, asking for the return of Yanukovich...
Janey
User ID: 55727230
United Kingdom
03/26/2014 11:07 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
RT @EuromaidanPR: 50 vehicles such as tanks, BTRs & cars with troops moving towards #Simferopol (center of Crimea) from the northern #Crimea now @KrymSOS |PR
 Quoting: Newshunter


just on messenger now with one of the journos there. This tweet is backwards.

The units are moving north FROM Simferopol
GodzillaReturns
Apex Predator

User ID: 1077295
United States
03/26/2014 11:07 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
...


Well of course. You're a giant fire breathing primeval lizard.
 Quoting: BioReaper


and that is only when you catch him on a good day!
 Quoting: Janey 55727230


as long as I've had my coffee no one gets heatrayed
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


I'm so watching your upcoming movie lol
 Quoting: BioReaper


assuming we all live that long with all this crap going on
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF

If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 42497416
United Kingdom
03/26/2014 11:09 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
RT @EuromaidanPR: #Obama agrees to export natural gas to #Europe in the amount required for the daily usage [link to tvrain.ru] … |PR News #Ukraine #Crimea
 Quoting: Newshunter


Treason by Obama. American fracking gas will last a few years at most. Exporting it only shortens that time frame.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23480758


No chance of natural gas exports in the near future as the USA is still a net importer.

[link to www.eia.gov]

Several companies are planning to build liquefaction capacity to export LNG from the United States. Cheniere Energy’s Sabine Pass facility is planned to be the first to liquefy natural gas produced in the Lower 48 states for export. The facility has a total liquefaction capacity of 3 Bcf/d and is scheduled to come online in stages beginning in late 2015.

Growing domestic production over the past several years has displaced some pipeline imports from Canada, while exports to Mexico have increased. EIA expects these trends will continue through 2015. EIA projects net imports of 3.6 Bcf/d in 2014 and 2.6 Bcf/d in 2015, which would be the lowest level since 1987. Over the longer term, the EIA Annual Energy Outlook 2014 projects the United States will be a net exporter of natural gas beginning in 2018.

[link to ir.eia.gov]

Working gas in storage was 953 Bcf as of Friday, March 14, 2014, according to EIA estimates. This represents a net decline of 48 Bcf from the previous week. Stocks were 932 Bcf less than last year at this time and 876 Bcf below the 5-year average of 1,829 Bcf. In the East Region, stocks were 399 Bcf below the 5-year average following net withdrawals of 35 Bcf. Stocks in the Producing Region were 351 Bcf below the 5-year average of 742 Bcf after a net withdrawal of 11 Bcf. Stocks in the West Region were 126 Bcf below the 5-year average after a net drawdown of 2 Bcf. At 953 Bcf, total working gas is below the 5-year historical range.

[link to ir.eia.gov]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 55885522
Canada
03/26/2014 11:12 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
I don't know if anyone here feels the same, but there is an "escalation air" today... nothing much happened, but a lot of reports about military moving, east and south situation (like Odessa) is even more difficult, ITAR TASS reported also that Odessa citiziens this morning found a lot of papers in the streets and mail boxes, asking for the return of Yanukovich...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56110959


Both the flooding of media with equipment & troops on the move and the pro-Yanukovich propaganda serve 2 purposes, as I said: demoralizing/intimidation and a spark for inter-ethnic war - with the 2nd being the trigger for full invasion.
DawaSatso

User ID: 53681375
United States
03/26/2014 11:13 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
You can't take Crimea without taking other parts of Ukraine people. Just a matter of time, not really even up for debate IMO.
 Quoting: < DL >


Yes. The Ukraine people like the crimeans have their own way of responding to this sudden implanted group with their feet up on the desks.

Momentum already is apparent from within including how their own internal forces will react to these circumstances.
Lessening the need for aggressive russian offensives which everybody seems spin.

Gee,just what if the Ukrainians fix it themselves..think Obla's Corporate sales to Monsanto & oil co's 6 months ago for their cut of this country will be taken lying down?
Of course not.
So they might need augmented thuggery to beat the people back down.
Sun_dancer

User ID: 48671548
United States
03/26/2014 11:16 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Current status of #Ukraine's naval fleet: 51 Ukraine ships stolen by Russia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315


Still baffles me why the ships did not leave Crimea when Russia demanded it at the beginning .... I mean if they were going to stand and fight it's one thing .... Guess that's part of the reason the defense minister was sacked?
Sun_dancer
GodzillaReturns
Apex Predator

User ID: 1077295
United States
03/26/2014 11:17 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Current status of #Ukraine's naval fleet: 51 Ukraine ships stolen by Russia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315


Still baffles me why the ships did not leave Crimea when Russia demanded it at the beginning .... I mean if they were going to stand and fight it's one thing .... Guess that's part of the reason the defense minister was sacked?
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


defense minister should've been shot for that, it's tantamount to treason
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF

If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say
< DL >

User ID: 11619293
United States
03/26/2014 11:18 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Christopher Miller&#8207;@ChristopherJM·32 secs
#Ukraine's Ministry of Defense compiles list of items one must have ready in a backpack should country go to war [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] …
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 648576
United States
03/26/2014 11:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Current status of #Ukraine's naval fleet: 51 Ukraine ships stolen by Russia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315


Still baffles me why the ships did not leave Crimea when Russia demanded it at the beginning .... I mean if they were going to stand and fight it's one thing .... Guess that's part of the reason the defense minister was sacked?
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Because the Russians scuttled ships in the bay entrance NOT ALLOWING them to leave. They never were asked to leave, they were asked to surrender from the beginning. Even if you take the position of reoccupying Crimea as righting an historical wrong, taking the Ukrainian naval vessels is nothing short of piracy.
Lime Flavoured Redux

User ID: 1118020
United Kingdom
03/26/2014 11:20 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Christopher Miller&#8207;@ChristopherJM·32 secs
#Ukraine's Ministry of Defense compiles list of items one must have ready in a backpack should country go to war [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] …
 Quoting: < DL >


Not a bad idea, although I think any war is likely to be over too quickly for it to make much difference lol.
GodzillaReturns
Apex Predator

User ID: 1077295
United States
03/26/2014 11:20 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Christopher Miller&#8207;@ChristopherJM·32 secs
#Ukraine's Ministry of Defense compiles list of items one must have ready in a backpack should country go to war [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] …
 Quoting: < DL >


wow is it me or US/UK and rest of europe just way behind the eight ball on this while the russians are just like...yeah we did all that already where have you guys been?
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF

If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 55119325
United States
03/26/2014 11:20 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Putin is a fat midget. Tell piggly wiggly to run back home.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 56085894
Portugal
03/26/2014 11:20 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
zerohedge &#8207;@zerohedge · 5 min
Ukrainians now have a great role model to aspire to - Greece Stabilization Could Be Model for Ukraine, Schaeuble Says.


puke5puke5puke5
Newshunter

User ID: 22884594
United States
03/26/2014 11:21 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Matthew Price&#8207;@BBCMatthewPrice·1h
@Rawaak @BBCWorld Russia Gasprom deal with china due to be signed in summer....
Sun_dancer

User ID: 48671548
United States
03/26/2014 11:22 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Current status of #Ukraine's naval fleet: 51 Ukraine ships stolen by Russia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315


Someone should have told their navy that the idea is to provide defence...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54937273


EuromaidanPR Ukr military equipment in #Crimea worth 18bln UAH. #Ukraine will claim reimbursement from #Russia if hampered to bring it to mainland.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315


Yeah, problem is Russia has the Kosovo precedent from the International Court of Justice, which stated, in relevant part, "the adoption of the declaration of independence of the 17 February 2008 did not violate general international law because international law contains no 'prohibition on declarations of independence'". [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Obviously Kosovo did not have to pay Serbia the value of Kosovo upon secession, so by analogy Crimea will owe Ukraine nothing for having declared independence. And the ships - they also became the property of Crimea when they refused to leave.

Of course it does give Ukraine a reason to delay payment of the moneys it owes Russia - but Russia could still resort to self-help and cut off the gas tap.
Sun_dancer
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 56111372
United Kingdom
03/26/2014 11:24 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Christopher Miller&#8207;@ChristopherJM·32 secs
#Ukraine's Ministry of Defense compiles list of items one must have ready in a backpack should country go to war [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] …
 Quoting: < DL >


Not a bad idea, although I think any war is likely to be over too quickly for it to make much difference lol.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Those are things to survive, not fight actually.
< DL >

User ID: 11619293
United States
03/26/2014 11:24 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
bruce springnote&#8207;@BSpringnote·1 min
Crimea reports crude products supply at 5 days only. Problems with light products but they expect russian companies to come rescue them
< DL >

User ID: 11619293
United States
03/26/2014 11:25 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Russian Market&#8207;@russian_market·1 min
RUSSIA TO ALLOCATE RU243B IN BUDGET FUNDS FOR CRIMEA (ca. $6,8B)
Kirk

User ID: 56098376
United States
03/26/2014 11:27 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Current status of #Ukraine's naval fleet: 51 Ukraine ships stolen by Russia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315


Still baffles me why the ships did not leave Crimea when Russia demanded it at the beginning .... I mean if they were going to stand and fight it's one thing .... Guess that's part of the reason the defense minister was sacked?
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Because the Russians scuttled ships in the bay entrance NOT ALLOWING them to leave. They never were asked to leave, they were asked to surrender from the beginning. Even if you take the position of reoccupying Crimea as righting an historical wrong, taking the Ukrainian naval vessels is nothing short of piracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 648576


They belong to the land they are annexing. How can you pirate from yourself?
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
Lime Flavoured Redux

User ID: 1118020
United Kingdom
03/26/2014 11:27 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Christopher Miller&#8207;@ChristopherJM·32 secs
#Ukraine's Ministry of Defense compiles list of items one must have ready in a backpack should country go to war [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] …
 Quoting: < DL >


Not a bad idea, although I think any war is likely to be over too quickly for it to make much difference lol.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Those are things to survive, not fight actually.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56111372


Yeah, but if things were to go in the way they could, with Russia winning a "war" in less than 24 hours, there isn't really going t be a need for a bug out bag.
Janey
User ID: 55727230
United Kingdom
03/26/2014 11:27 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Just being told there are a chunk of assets now moving North from Simferopol. Not sure what a chunk is numerically yet though :)

Current thinking is they may be reinforcing the Crimea border.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 37289132
United Kingdom
03/26/2014 11:28 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
RT @EuromaidanPR: 50 vehicles such as tanks, BTRs & cars with troops moving towards #Simferopol (center of Crimea) from the northern #Crimea now @KrymSOS |PR
 Quoting: Newshunter


just on messenger now with one of the journos there. This tweet is backwards.

The units are moving north FROM Simferopol
 Quoting: Janey 55727230


I want your children. Even if you are proper old, I just want to tap it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 56111372
United Kingdom
03/26/2014 11:29 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Christopher Miller&#8207;@ChristopherJM·32 secs
#Ukraine's Ministry of Defense compiles list of items one must have ready in a backpack should country go to war [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] …
 Quoting: < DL >


Not a bad idea, although I think any war is likely to be over too quickly for it to make much difference lol.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Those are things to survive, not fight actually.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56111372


Yeah, but if things were to go in the way they could, with Russia winning a "war" in less than 24 hours, there isn't really going t be a need for a bug out bag.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


It's cold outside.
lol
GodzillaReturns
Apex Predator

User ID: 1077295
United States
03/26/2014 11:29 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Just being told there are a chunk of assets now moving North from Simferopol. Not sure what a chunk is numerically yet though :)

Current thinking is they may be reinforcing the Crimea border.
 Quoting: Janey 55727230


lol...will have to add "chunk" into military language dictionary first chance I get when we have an actual number
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF

If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say
< DL >

User ID: 11619293
United States
03/26/2014 11:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Euromaidan PR&#8207;@EuromaidanPR·1 min
#Poland cancels #Polish-#Russian forum that was supposed to take place in #Gda&#324;sk in April [link to www.ukrinform.ua] … |PR News #Crimea #Putin
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 56109137
United States
03/26/2014 11:31 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Just being told there are a chunk of assets now moving North from Simferopol. Not sure what a chunk is numerically yet though :)

Current thinking is they may be reinforcing the Crimea border.
 Quoting: Janey 55727230


lol...will have to add "chunk" into military language dictionary first chance I get when we have an actual number
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


Damn its too to early to break out the map. Heading from Simferopol due north puts them where?
NawtyBits

User ID: 56060863
United States
03/26/2014 11:32 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Current status of #Ukraine's naval fleet: 51 Ukraine ships stolen by Russia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315


Still baffles me why the ships did not leave Crimea when Russia demanded it at the beginning .... I mean if they were going to stand and fight it's one thing .... Guess that's part of the reason the defense minister was sacked?
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Maybe DM underestimated the number of "defections"?
Maybe DM expected more help from "outside sources"?
Maybe DM underestimated his opponents initiative?
Maybe DM was a dumbass.
WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do

"If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker





GLP