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it is always the opposite.. I do in fact know what my president said.. Shocking I know.. because I live here..

It is always the opposite.
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US won't do shit but sit and take it in the butt from Russia and China.
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For the second day in a row, you wind up on my ignore list so I don't have to sift through your childish bullshit.

This time, you're staying there.

It's been a real slice....
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Putin inspires terror in New World Order: Dr. Barrett
[link to www.presstv.ir]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55983976


Nothing makes me happier than to see this. Putin has been vilainized and misquoted by the NWO Propaganda machine. It's high time the truth be told.

I hope those NWO idiots are shitting bricks right now !!!!!
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!


These things are entertaining - I would like to believe that too but I doubt it. They are cooking up their other scenario - it seems to me no matter how you play this, they always win, one way or another.
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Its gonna be highly interesting to see how this will all turn out. Russia has only 3 real options now-


- Return to rationality- remove troops from Crimea which is still Ukrainian property, and cease other ogoing hostilies against Ukraine.

- Stay deluded and stubbornly obstinate, and face economic warfare and be destroyed by it.

- Go to war against nations which combined are 20 times more powerful than it in terms of economic power and conventional military power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55935486


The delusion is on the Western side. Russia and China hold all the cards now and are joined together in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, which among other things calls for mutual defense.

Russia and China could destroy the U.S. tomorrow simply by selling U.S. treasury bonds and liquidating their dollar holdings, and buying gold or some other currency. The U.S. would be too busy trying to feed its people to start wars with anybody. Without the U.S., NATO is toothless. All over without a shot fired. Game, set, match Russia.
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you really really underestimate the economic power of the west.

in 2007-2008 the US lost over 25 trillion dollar and still stands. Europe lost 15 trillion dollar and still stands.

US GDP: 15 trillion
EU GDP: 16 trillion

Russia GDP: 2 trillion
China GDP: 10 trillion

China "only" holds 1.2 trillion of US debt
Russia "only" 150 billion.

The US will not go down if china and or russia sell US bonds. There will be a crash yes but just a bump on the way to victory.

(Even Belgium has more US bonds then Russia 180 billion lolz)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56002521


You are right it will only be major austerity. But quite major. Bear in mind that if Russia/China/India/Iran/Iraq and some others (Brazil, South Africa) create a new currency - and *require* it for trade - it will massively drop demand for the Euro and Dollar in central bank and other reserve and asset funds. Thus there would be major increase in interest rates in US because nobody can buy all those bonds being sold to buy the new bonds.

If interest rates hit 15% even (which was the level they hit in the late 70s early 80s), what will this do to the economy? Imagine huge price increases in car payments, house payments (OMG!), government funding (so much debt is short term, maybe half of it, so how about paying $3 trillion in interest a year and not having a buyer for new bonds?).

Etc., etc., I don't have time to map it all out but think also of how US would change if suddenly we could import no more than we export, even less actually as we need to start working off our debt.
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All of you shills are missing what's really going on. The US gives Pootin Crimea and Eastern Ukraine, and Russia lets Israel bomb Iran. All of you poo-tards think he's fighting the NWO. Putin IS the NWO.

shoefit
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If that's the case then the whole NWO conspiracy is far bigger and complex than many have thought including me.

I hope it's NOT the case.
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The Russian government propaganda bout Nazis taking over Ukraine would be hilarious if so many Russians didnt fall for it...

reality -

Ukraine's new Prime Minister - moderate, Jew

new Vice PM - moderate, Jew

new President - moderate, ethnic Russian

the two front running parties in the Parliament now are center-moderate parties -

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The two front-runners for President are Klitchko and Poroshenko, both from center-right parties.
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Yep the deal has been made.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40499823


Interesting..
You're thinking Russia just gave the US Syria?

not sure I buy it yet... We'll see.
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


they will exchange syria for south-east ukraine
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DL's Uncle said this would this would happen!!!
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This
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Putin inspires terror in New World Order: Dr. Barrett
[link to www.presstv.ir]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55983976


Nothing makes me happier than to see this. Putin has been vilainized and misquoted by the NWO Propaganda machine. It's high time the truth be told.

I hope those NWO idiots are shitting bricks right now !!!!!
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!


+1
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East Ukrainians rally in support of Crimea-style vote:
[link to www.presstv.ir]
 Quoting: DawaSatso


Look for pro-Russia rallies in West Ukraine soon...

Along with London, Paris and Berlin!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44054216


Damn it, you made me spray my soda!
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@RamiAlLolah 29s
HUUGE! #BreakingNews #Russia|n warships reportedly leaving #Tartus naval facility towards unknown destination.

 Quoting: djdandew1


@Paradoxy13 37m
Sources to Lebnese Elnashra say that #Russian warships in Tartus are moving towards the Turkish borders in #Latakia.
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Latakia is the location of the Russian naval base in Syria, not Turkey. Russian ships are most likely delivering weapons for the Syrian Arab Army, methinks.
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Sergey Aksenov @ sergyaksenov 1h
Important. Ukrainian national energy company "Ukrenergo" reduced the amount of electricity supplied to the Crimea by 50%


Sergey Aksenov @ sergyaksenov 1h
Reducing supply - is an attempt to blackmail Kiev Russia through the Crimea to bargain for something. Cheap trick is inadequate.
# Crimea
 Quoting: Puckerfactor


According to KrymEnergo (Crimean Energy Company) a disruption in electricity supplies was due to a serious breakdown of high-voltage network. Emergency service is working on it and promising to restore supplies to the morning of 24th.

Frankly speaking I would not exclude that this failure was caused by some incaution of military in Crimea. They are too many today, especially armor, but when you have a lot of military everything may happen :)
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All of you shills are missing what's really going on. The US gives Pootin Crimea and Eastern Ukraine, and Russia lets Israel bomb Iran. All of you poo-tards think he's fighting the NWO. Putin IS the NWO.

shoefit
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Very interesting thought.
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it would seem as if something militarily is going to happen soon.. skyking pooping its pants Israel closing every embassy and now Russia is moving warships from Tartus
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it is always the opposite.. I do in fact know what my president said.. Shocking I know.. because I live here..

It is always the opposite.
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


US won't do shit but sit and take it in the butt from Russia and China.
 Quoting: Polemarchos


War is no longer waged directly by the u.s. . Now it's all pretending your hands are clean and appearing to turn your back on the thing you want most.
Unrelenting lies.
Proxies.
Entering like you own the world stomping every sovereign dignity.
Drone strikes both in and where they want a quick assassination and just to terrorize where there's not even a "war".
Dirty little drug-crazed kids with ammo, a pathetic script and a camera.
Distraction.
List continues...
all on the cheap.

Imho, yes they will appear to sit.

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East Ukrainians rally in support of Crimea-style vote:
[link to www.presstv.ir]
 Quoting: DawaSatso


Look for pro-Russia rallies in West Ukraine soon...

Along with London, Paris and Berlin!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44054216


Damn it, you made me spray my soda!
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i want putin as our PM
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Ukraine asks strategic partners for military technical help
Meeaint with Canada’s Premier Steven Harper in Kyiv, Pres Turchynov asked Ukraine’s strategic partners for technical military assistance.

In the face of Putin’s blatant aggression in Crimea, Ukraine needs both moral and technical military support from its strategic partners and guarantors of Ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity, Turchynov said.

The present confrontation with Russia is not only Ukraine’s problem. |It is a challenge to the entire world. Putin is violating the established world order and laws. He made aggression the language of the relations among states, Pres Turchynov said.

“There can be no normal relations with the Putin regime until Crimea remains illegally occupied,” S. Harper said.

[link to zik.ua]

I suggest that Canadians assist in restoring Green Ukraine under the sovereignty of Ukraine. It would only be fair, because the Ukrainians were deported from Crimea on the Pacific coast and the Russians have settled in Crimea. It was ethnic cleansing.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Mr. Blenton


Didn't Canadians "ethnically cleanse" their entire country?
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Well, trust me, we who work in Canada are paying for that, and paying and paying and paying and paying.
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Did you consider that maybe they have different spirituality and desires from you and don't want your money, they just want back their way of life?
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East Ukrainians rally in support of Crimea-style vote:
[link to www.presstv.ir]
 Quoting: DawaSatso


Look for pro-Russia rallies in West Ukraine soon...

Along with London, Paris and Berlin!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44054216


Damn it, you made me spray my soda!
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i want putin as our PM
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+1 here pal...
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Twitter is saying rebels approaching Assad's Palace on Latakia's coast (this is where Russian ships where believed to be heading)
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I don't think Putin would make any deal "against" Syria. He's probably got information that he'd better move his ships NOW.... incoming attack on the horizon. Protect his assets.

Of course, what do I know. LOL
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!


Do we even know if he moved ALL the ships? These could be just some of them. There could be a rotation coming up.
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I would say that since Israel is closing all of its embassies worldwide.... something is about to go down in Syria/Iran ????
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Look for pro-Russia rallies in West Ukraine soon...

Along with London, Paris and Berlin!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44054216


Damn it, you made me spray my soda!
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


i want putin as our PM
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47466800


+1 here pal...
 Quoting: Dr_Doom


+1 here too. After Putin annexes europe to his safety, we here in this US should hold rallies for him to annex us into his kind kingdom also. We could just concentration camp any evil Nazis who tried to stop us!

Down with the Nazis! Heil Putin!
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All of you shills are missing what's really going on. The US gives Pootin Crimea and Eastern Ukraine, and Russia lets Israel bomb Iran. All of you poo-tards think he's fighting the NWO. Putin IS the NWO.

shoefit
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US gives Putin Crimea? lmao US has nothing to give to Russia, Putin just takes whatever he wants. Prove me wrong.
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advocates of nuclear disarmament say the new freeze in US-Russian relations was likely to torpedo any hopes that they had of persuading Washington and its Nato allies to withdraw the last US nuclear weapons on European soil, an estimated 150-200 B61 gravity bombs deployed in the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Italy and Turkey
[link to www.theguardian.com]
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Yes because now that there is a higher risk that the surrounding people will get incinerated they are going to stop protesting.

I have a plan for them, it goes like this. Go to the center of your government with a few thousands and make barricades, blocking off streets and government buildings. If the police try to stop you pelter them with molotov cocktails and cobblestones. Soon Ashton will come and give them cookies.
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I don't know. I think Israel is going after Iran.
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if that happens, it can start a chain reaction of events that can lead to a limited nuclear exchange.
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I agree on this if jews attack iran,thats instant WW3.
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I wouldn't say "instant", but it certainly wouldn't be pretty.
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Twitter is saying rebels approaching Assad's Palace on Latakia's coast (this is where Russian ships where believed to be heading)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13456938


Here is the palace on Gugl maps-

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Sergey Aksenov @ sergyaksenov 1h
Important. Ukrainian national energy company "Ukrenergo" reduced the amount of electricity supplied to the Crimea by 50%


Sergey Aksenov @ sergyaksenov 1h
Reducing supply - is an attempt to blackmail Kiev Russia through the Crimea to bargain for something. Cheap trick is inadequate.
# Crimea
 Quoting: Puckerfactor


According to KrymEnergo (Crimean Energy Company) a disruption in electricity supplies was due to a serious breakdown of high-voltage network. Emergency service is working on it and promising to restore supplies to the morning of 24th.

Frankly speaking I would not exclude that this failure was caused by some incaution of military in Crimea. They are too many today, especially armor, but when you have a lot of military everything may happen :)
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You might be technically correct. BUT in times like these with both sides on the edge like a high tension wire, all it takes is the "perception" of Ukraine having cut the power and

dynamitedynamitedynamitedynamitedynamiteexplosionexplosion
Ever closer to darkness we ride relentless hell hounds by our side....

....I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hellfire was following close behind him......


Just keeping the score.....
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Twitter is saying rebels approaching Assad's Palace on Latakia's coast (this is where Russian ships where believed to be heading)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13456938


Here is the palace on Gugl maps-

[link to maps.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55935486


After I posted realized that the movement on the palace by rebels was from a couple hours ago.
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“In short, the New World Order – a shadowy group of global banking oligarchs bent on establishing a one-world dictatorship – is trying to overthrow every leader on earth who resists. Russian President Putin is resisting. That is why the Western propaganda machine is calling him names,” Barrett said.
 Quoting: Engonoceras


Interesting because that's been my take on the whole issue with Russia since last year.

If Russia is folded into the NWO/Banker cabal they will be sucked dry economically by the NWO/Banker vampires. They will never be an independent country again.


The Russian Central Bank is not fully independent as, for example, the Federal Reserve. The RSB's policies must be submitted to the Duma for approval. The banksters hate that.

Nevertheless, the Russian Central Bank is a member of the BIS.
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Sergey Aksenov @ sergyaksenov 1h
Important. Ukrainian national energy company "Ukrenergo" reduced the amount of electricity supplied to the Crimea by 50%


Sergey Aksenov @ sergyaksenov 1h
Reducing supply - is an attempt to blackmail Kiev Russia through the Crimea to bargain for something. Cheap trick is inadequate.
# Crimea
 Quoting: Puckerfactor


According to KrymEnergo (Crimean Energy Company) a disruption in electricity supplies was due to a serious breakdown of high-voltage network. Emergency service is working on it and promising to restore supplies to the morning of 24th.

Frankly speaking I would not exclude that this failure was caused by some incaution of military in Crimea. They are too many today, especially armor, but when you have a lot of military everything may happen :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56008137


You might be technically correct. BUT in times like these with both sides on the edge like a high tension wire, all it takes is the "perception" of Ukraine having cut the power and

dynamitedynamitedynamitedynamitedynamiteexplosionexplosion
 Quoting: Puckerfactor


Both sides arent on edge like a high tension wire. That is just Russia and Russia alone. Everyone else is just standing and looking at them like they are the madman walking down the street with a gun screaming at everyone.
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I don't think Putin would make any deal "against" Syria. He's probably got information that he'd better move his ships NOW.... incoming attack on the horizon. Protect his assets.

Of course, what do I know. LOL
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!


Do we even know if he moved ALL the ships? These could be just some of them. There could be a rotation coming up.
 Quoting: Polemarchos


I would say that since Israel is closing all of its embassies worldwide.... something is about to go down in Syria/Iran ????
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!


They would be absolutely crazy to go after Iran now that the bear has woken up.

But again, these are crazy times where a lot of this makes no sense at all.
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Twitter is saying rebels approaching Assad's Palace on Latakia's coast (this is where Russian ships where believed to be heading)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13456938


Geez. Syria just can't catch a break.

Wouldn't this be uncharacteristic of russia to do this without some threat to direct working investments there.

They've been careful not to transgress beyond this so far.





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